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Old 28th Oct 2008, 07:32
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Jumpseating?

G'day,

What are the chances of getting up front during an Aussie Domestic flight these days?

I hold a valid ASIC and an SPL if that helps!
IS it completely out of the equation or is it possible?

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Old 28th Oct 2008, 07:45
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unless you work for the airline, diddly squat
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Old 28th Oct 2008, 08:20
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Not good

As Aussinick said pretty much buckleys!! I find it hard enough to get a jump seat and I work for an airline.
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Yeah i figured i got no hope riding a jumpseat as such! but as far as riding in on the approach I wasn't too sure about

Is it under airline regulations or is it purely at the discretion of the pilots?
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Old 28th Oct 2008, 08:46
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I dont know eh... Cause my friend whose father is a Captain, he just asked another pilot if he could jumpseat and the other captain said that is fine. So I'm imagining here that some airlines have different views?
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It's in the regs as to who is allowed in cockpit in flight and who can occupy seats etc....but essentially its the captains call/airline as to whether you can come to the front.

Whilst in flight your chances are almost nil. On ground on the decision of the captain it is possible.

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On ground on the decision of the captain it is possible.
Yes, i've been up front post flight both QF and DJ, First officer on the DJ flight wouldn't let me go!

I might try my luck asking pre flight (normally you see them at the gate) if i can wander on up.

Don't ask you don't get!!
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No chance on QF - must be an employee with an ASIC.
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Old 28th Oct 2008, 09:36
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No chance on QF
Bugger, i'd say VB are the same then!

Can any VB drivers confirm?
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hahaha! maybe ill try that instead!

All im after is 10mins up front during the approach and landing
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Why don't you apply for VB then for a job then you could watch all phases of flight....and not just for 10 mins but for 5, 6,7 or even 8 hours!

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Why don't you apply for VB
Thats further down the track!
Long way to go yet!
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Old 28th Oct 2008, 10:23
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To jumpseat inflight with VB you need to be a VB employee or nominated on VB staff travel to meet company requirements plus get approval of the Captain
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I think its come across a bit of a misunderstanding im not after a jumpseat as in a freebie flight or sitting in the cockpit for the entire flight.

I have payed for a seat on the aircraft, would i be allowed a visit mid flight as a paying passenger? (Hold an ASIC)

Hope thats a bit more precise!
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You can lead a horse to water.....
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Back in the late 90's while studying for my ATPL's, I had my TAFE instructor write a letter to Qantas, just prior to a holiday I was taking to Singapore.

Ended up being invited to ride the jump seat from departure the whole way through to arrival in Changi. Got the same courtesy on the way back to Australia. It was like a dream come true for a fledgling pilot

Its a shame terrorism & security measures post 9-11 have ruined the ability for crew to invite passengers to ride the jump seat these days
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Ahhh I remember the good old days when we were on route to LAX and the captain asked if any small children (accompanied by parents obviously) would like too see his office. That was the captain asking PAX
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Happy to be corrected here...

There is nothing in law preventing it. But I know of no airline that allows anyone other than persons who work for that airline and hold a valid ASIC to enter the cockpit. Gone are the good ol' days. Most will let you in on the ground, so if you're easily entertained, try that.

If you happen to be looking for a little cash or part time job, look at National Jet (I see you're in ADL). Few months with them behind a desk and you should be able to get on a freighter (with an ASIC) to MEL, BNE or SYD. Unless things have changed there in the last 6 months...
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In my very recent experience, i got to ride up front in a big twin prop. on RPT. mind you i did no both the crew (good mates off mine) and got invited up there.
maybe find out were the crew hang out mate, drink lotsa beer with them form time to time and than ask?

good luck.

i really enjoyed it and was nice to see what they do (my mates) during flight. (not to much it seems but drink coffee while the autopliot fly's lol)

yea yea yea i know bad wx and all it becomes hard work etc etc....

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T5M- No jumpseat means no jumpseat, not even for a little bit. We still get people wanting to have a look but its only when we are on the ground and they are trooping out the door that they can come in. Sad but thats the world we live in.
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