Best paying instructor jobs.
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Best paying instructor jobs.
G'day all,
Does anyone have any info re the best paying instructing jobs in the country for grade 3 and grade 2's?
I've started noticing a lot of companies (at least in the west) are starting to pay bonuses to their instructors based on flying hours per week (possibly?) which by the sounds of them are starting to get quite generous. I've heard one company pays salary plus $30 per flight hour.
Does anyone know of any other companies paying similar sorts of bonuses ar any that have other incentives?'
Cheers
Johnny!
Does anyone have any info re the best paying instructing jobs in the country for grade 3 and grade 2's?
I've started noticing a lot of companies (at least in the west) are starting to pay bonuses to their instructors based on flying hours per week (possibly?) which by the sounds of them are starting to get quite generous. I've heard one company pays salary plus $30 per flight hour.
Does anyone know of any other companies paying similar sorts of bonuses ar any that have other incentives?'
Cheers
Johnny!
if you have experience you can negotiate your own salary above the award.If you are not experienced,take the award until you can negotiate a better deal.Just look at the jobs of offer at the moment,it is a sellers market.
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dont be happy with the award
Actually do NOT be happy with the award in the current climate.
Make the most of the current demand for instructors. Believe me when things quieten down, the pay will very quickly reduce to the minimum (or below) so make hay while the sun shines.
Make the most of the current demand for instructors. Believe me when things quieten down, the pay will very quickly reduce to the minimum (or below) so make hay while the sun shines.
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Sorry to change the subject matter slightly, but can someone please explain to me the differences between grade 3 to 1 instructors, is it just hours or further courses?
junior 3 - can instruct, but requires the direct supervision of a grade 1
senior 3 - can instruct under indirect supervision of grade 1
grade 2- can send solos
grade 1 - can send solos and supervise grade 3s
There are a few other differences, but thats a simple version.
To go from junior 3 to senior 3 - your company signs you off.
Then from 3 to 2 and 2 to 1 is a test with CASA delegate consisting of a brief and a flight (once you have met the required experience/'hours' requirement for each grade) - also need to do the 'Principles & Methods of Instructional Technique multiple guess with ASL for grade 1 ...
[Then of course we need to pay CASA some more money for a licence reprint
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Sorry to change the subject matter slightly, but can someone please explain to me the differences between grade 3 to 1 instructors, is it just hours or further courses?
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$$$ for instructors...
Hi Guys,
I used to instruct at a large school in south-east Qld. The $$ was pretty good but you have to work hard for it.
Grade threes started on $45k
Grade twos started on $50-$55 (if they had a CIR)
Grade ones started on $58 for bare gr 1 and up to $70k with CIR and META
With Gr1's becomming rarer than rocking horse poo these days the salary of someone with a CIR and META is bound to go through the roof... $80k might be reasonable from next year (if you're any good).
Hope it helps
Just make sure you're being paid appropriately for the amount of torment you receive!
I used to instruct at a large school in south-east Qld. The $$ was pretty good but you have to work hard for it.
Grade threes started on $45k
Grade twos started on $50-$55 (if they had a CIR)
Grade ones started on $58 for bare gr 1 and up to $70k with CIR and META
With Gr1's becomming rarer than rocking horse poo these days the salary of someone with a CIR and META is bound to go through the roof... $80k might be reasonable from next year (if you're any good).
Hope it helps
Just make sure you're being paid appropriately for the amount of torment you receive!
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hey guys,
Thanks for the replys. In my limited instructing experience I've noticed that less and less companies are paying the bare bones award (about 33k for jr grade 3) and all the companies (at least at JT) are offering fulltime employment even for junior guys
Thanks for the replys. In my limited instructing experience I've noticed that less and less companies are paying the bare bones award (about 33k for jr grade 3) and all the companies (at least at JT) are offering fulltime employment even for junior guys
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That's the way it should be.
That's about how it was before we got a flood of green cpl holders fighting for the few available jobs.
Although there was always competition for capital city jobs.
Although there was always competition for capital city jobs.
Be aware some companies try to pay the gov website award which is not up to date.Only the AFAP website is showing the correct rates of pay with the transition from work choices etc and the up to date increases.
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TSIO540, is your statement that accurate? I believe you, its just hard to believe you can earn that amount of money. Fantastic stuff. I don’t think you would require a secondary income.
In NZ, for example, the instructors at Ardmore, and other places both north and south are paid 25$ an hour for c cat ( grade 3 either junior or Sr ) . So, if your not flying your not being paid. And, with the large amounts of rain in the last three months in NZ, there were many instructors that were paid little. Grade 2, or B cat’s are often put on a salary- equivalent to around- 25G per year. Some schools higher some lower. Then grade 1 ( A cat ) well, there is only 2 A cats at the big school at Ardmore, one has an injury, but is on around 45g per year. The other owns 3 houses, is notorious, and is salaried to a secret, but understandably, for the sake of business, is on around 80grand or more ( due to some kind of agreement with commissions ) . The is other A cats floating around. A few are airline pilots, some work with other positions. And a few are self made. Other B cats that work for companies at Ardmore are all on around 35g give or take. But, usually not too much more.
Hamilton C cats ( at the big school ) are on around- 23g, B cats on around 30g, and there are not too many A cats around there either. Actually, to become an A cat doesn’t seem to be so popular here in NZ. Seems more common, acceptable and accessible in Aussie.
That is pretty much the standard around NZ. I have many friends that are instructors like me, but are working in Aussie. I know that schools at Bankstown, pay 35g for a Jr Gr 3, another school pays 33g for Jr Gr 3. Goes up to just under 40g for Gr 2, and 45 or like mentioned earlier, varies depending on negotiating skills.
Actually. I think there seems to be a lot of interest in instructing now. My friends have informed me that a lot of people of signing up to do instructing courses. I hope this remains positive in the future. It would be disappointing to work hard towards a Gr 2 or 1, which takes a few years and then find in a few years that the industry has taken a major step back, and salaries have dropped. All my friends tell me that all their ( or most ) of their students are from overseas, and that seems to be the factor fueling the need and therefore the wages of instructors
FS1200
Here's an example from a NZ website- All NZ wages, and NZ living is not so cheap.
C-cat single engine VFR instructor $17,500 6-9 months
B-cat single-engine VFR instructor $20,500 6-9 months
B-cat multi-engine VFR instructor $23,500 3 months
B-cat multi-engine IFR instructor $27,500 6-9 months
A-cat (SE/ME, VFR/IFR) instructor $32,500
In NZ, for example, the instructors at Ardmore, and other places both north and south are paid 25$ an hour for c cat ( grade 3 either junior or Sr ) . So, if your not flying your not being paid. And, with the large amounts of rain in the last three months in NZ, there were many instructors that were paid little. Grade 2, or B cat’s are often put on a salary- equivalent to around- 25G per year. Some schools higher some lower. Then grade 1 ( A cat ) well, there is only 2 A cats at the big school at Ardmore, one has an injury, but is on around 45g per year. The other owns 3 houses, is notorious, and is salaried to a secret, but understandably, for the sake of business, is on around 80grand or more ( due to some kind of agreement with commissions ) . The is other A cats floating around. A few are airline pilots, some work with other positions. And a few are self made. Other B cats that work for companies at Ardmore are all on around 35g give or take. But, usually not too much more.
Hamilton C cats ( at the big school ) are on around- 23g, B cats on around 30g, and there are not too many A cats around there either. Actually, to become an A cat doesn’t seem to be so popular here in NZ. Seems more common, acceptable and accessible in Aussie.
That is pretty much the standard around NZ. I have many friends that are instructors like me, but are working in Aussie. I know that schools at Bankstown, pay 35g for a Jr Gr 3, another school pays 33g for Jr Gr 3. Goes up to just under 40g for Gr 2, and 45 or like mentioned earlier, varies depending on negotiating skills.
Actually. I think there seems to be a lot of interest in instructing now. My friends have informed me that a lot of people of signing up to do instructing courses. I hope this remains positive in the future. It would be disappointing to work hard towards a Gr 2 or 1, which takes a few years and then find in a few years that the industry has taken a major step back, and salaries have dropped. All my friends tell me that all their ( or most ) of their students are from overseas, and that seems to be the factor fueling the need and therefore the wages of instructors
FS1200
Here's an example from a NZ website- All NZ wages, and NZ living is not so cheap.
C-cat single engine VFR instructor $17,500 6-9 months
B-cat single-engine VFR instructor $20,500 6-9 months
B-cat multi-engine VFR instructor $23,500 3 months
B-cat multi-engine IFR instructor $27,500 6-9 months
A-cat (SE/ME, VFR/IFR) instructor $32,500
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flysaucer1200,
Yes, the figures are accurate. I was on a package of $70k (incl super)
, with Grade one (cat A i think) and multi-engine training approval and 1400 hrs of instruction experience.
The boss was prepared to pay for quality staff and even more for those looking for a career in instructing.
Lets hope instructing takes on some appeal soon because there are so few grade ones left that there'll be a 12 month wait for an instrument rating soon seening as it was already 6 months where I was working.
When I did my CIR in 2004 at a school in south-east qld it cost $12,000, where I was teaching recently they were around $20,000-25,000.
The idea of instructors who have paid $60,000 ++ for a CPL and instructor rating to be earning $25,000pa is demeaning
I think - especially in this market. Learn how to negotiate a better salary or be prepared to walk if you want some decent and fair $$$ .
Happy flight levels
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TSIO540
Yes, the figures are accurate. I was on a package of $70k (incl super)
, with Grade one (cat A i think) and multi-engine training approval and 1400 hrs of instruction experience.The boss was prepared to pay for quality staff and even more for those looking for a career in instructing.
Lets hope instructing takes on some appeal soon because there are so few grade ones left that there'll be a 12 month wait for an instrument rating soon seening as it was already 6 months where I was working.
When I did my CIR in 2004 at a school in south-east qld it cost $12,000, where I was teaching recently they were around $20,000-25,000.
The idea of instructors who have paid $60,000 ++ for a CPL and instructor rating to be earning $25,000pa is demeaning
I think - especially in this market. Learn how to negotiate a better salary or be prepared to walk if you want some decent and fair $$$ .Happy flight levels
,TSIO540