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Old 5th Sep 2008, 21:45
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In a time when there is a pilot shortage
I think that only lasted a couple of days before it was overtaken by an emerging worldwide recession!

I have recently return from a quick flit around the world.

The US is in recession - but nobody is talking about it!
The UK is in recession - and some are starting to talk about it.

Oz is being cushioned by the resources sector - but look at the direction the A$ is headed.

Airlines are going broke around the world!

Hard to see the Rat, Hymen Intactus, DeathStar an the Pussy all surviving.

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Old 5th Sep 2008, 23:06
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Medical

Wsa told years ago by a DAME that due to a non-specific medical condition I probably would not get into an airline (although the condition never prevented me from holding a class 1).

How wrong he was! Dont give up.
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downunder, mate i personally know of quite a few people that were told over the phone "you have no chance" for various reasons. All of these people seemed to defy the odds.....(get my drift?)

In aviation you will be told time and time again "you have no chance" ect. Its up to you to find the how.

One of the guys i talk about has a vision problem - he has to be one of the best people i've ever flown with in every regard (yes he flies a jet ATPL ect).

Do you research find others in your situation.
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Old 6th Sep 2008, 04:50
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In the end though, if I can't get an unrestricted class 1, I can't fly internationally by LAW, right?

so airlines will not touch me for that reason alone... and if I can't get an ATPL then I can never fly for an airline surely?
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Old 7th Sep 2008, 10:34
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Once had a restriction Day Cpl Australian airspace only...... I'm now overseas in command of a 737 800.

Have a go mate....
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Old 7th Sep 2008, 10:51
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Interestingly I just looked up Amblyopia on Wikipedia and it suggests there that the affected eye can be improved by wearing a patch over the good eye.

Aye aye skipper.... Don't try this at work folks
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Old 7th Sep 2008, 11:25
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Get a patch over both eyes and work for CASA!
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Old 7th Sep 2008, 12:29
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The US is in recession - but nobody is talking about it!
Recession is defined as 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth.
That has not happened in the US. (Recently)
The US has seen growth, slow growth for the last six months or more.
The US economy is very slow but it is not in a recession except in the eyes of CNN and other news media who are interested only in keeping people scared for the purposes of manipulating the election.
I can fully understand how you could have been persuaded during your recent stay that we are in recession but if you just consider that media reporting of economic concerns is on a par with media reporting of aviation matters, then things will become clear.
Come to think of it, is there anything in the media you can believe anymore?

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Old 8th Sep 2008, 03:34
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Good News!

CASA called me back and confirmed I CAN hold ATPL as a monocular pilot.

It is colour blindness that prevents you holding ATPL.

I have started wearing the patch again - gives me really bad headaches though trying to process info with the weaker eye because even though everything is in focus it is like your brain gets confused trying to read small print etc. I will see how improved things get after a month of patching while in the house. I think I wore the patch for half a day or so and when I took the patch off, whoa... strange sensation. It's like my brain is overloading on visual information seeing things completely different or something. So the patching must be having some effect.

I try to play computer games while the eye is patched since it forces my brain to process movement and patterns. I fly GA aircraft (with large aircraft there is too much necessity to read instruments with fine print on them - GA I can fly looking out of the plane only) on flight sim and racing cars on rFactor. I am sure there are exercises that are specific to this though.
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Old 8th Sep 2008, 09:00
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It is colour blindness that prevents you holding ATPL.
you might be wrong on that one...
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Old 9th Sep 2008, 03:19
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I can only say what CASA have told me and what Qantas have confirmed for me.

The medical officer for Qantas also said I should keep my eye on things in the future, said in a way that sounded like a subtle hint that monocularity may be looked at differently in the future and that international flight may be possible.

The other work around is to get an FAA Medical with a SODA (Statement of Demonstrated Ability) to prove that my condition does not affect my abilities to fly safely. That would satisfy the ICAO requirement, and having the CASA medical will satisfy entry requirement of having an australian medical certificate.
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Old 1st Oct 2008, 10:07
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The US is in recession - but nobody is talking about it!
Recession is defined as 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth.
That has not happened in the US. (Recently)
The US has seen growth, slow growth for the last six months or more.
The US economy is very slow but it is not in a recession except in the eyes of CNN and other news media who are interested only in keeping people scared for the purposes of manipulating the election.
I can fully understand how you could have been persuaded during your recent stay that we are in recession but if you just consider that media reporting of economic concerns is on a par with media reporting of aviation matters, then things will become clear.
Come to think of it, is there anything in the media you can believe anymore?
Hmmmmm!

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Old 1st Oct 2008, 11:06
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G'day - You need to check with CASA AVMED about the "Valid in Aust only." I think you will find that the wording has been changed to Doesn't comply fully with ICAO requirements. I had a conversation with the boss at AVMED recently, about this very matter, and he couldn't see any problem with operating internationally. I went to the trouble of getting a USA class 1 medical some time ago, no problems at all. And I have only one (1) working eye!!
Ring CASA AVMED, they are a great bunch of people, good commonsense, and will put you on the right path.
Cheers
PS N0-I don't work for CASA-heaven forbid!!!!!
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Old 10th Jan 2009, 15:39
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Serious Amblyopia

Hi Downunder. I have pretty severe Amblyopia in my left eye (brain), it can't even be determined what the acuity is, everything is blurry no matter how big, close, small, faraway, etc. I can very barely fake a 6/12 left eye on a very good day. My overall vision (thanks to my right eye) is 6/4 - 6/3. I have no other visual problems.

I love to fly ultralights but it's an expensive hobby. I have no problem with only flying in Australia but is there any possibility of getting ANY flying job?

BTW: which opthamologist did you go to to get your provisional Class 1?

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Old 29th Jan 2009, 00:26
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As far as i am told by CASA Avmed I do not meet the ICAO requirements ergo i cannot fly internationally on my medical.

I have seen many responses from people saying they have careers in the airlines even though they have similar issues to mine, but are any of you flying internationally?

I was considering doing an FAA Class 1 and seeing if i can get an unrestricted medical that way but I am told that will be no different, I will again end up with a medical with a waiver that prevents me flying internationally.
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Old 29th Jan 2009, 02:19
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I find it hard to believe a lazy eye would stop you.
My brother flies for an airline and has no problem.
He not only has a lazy eye but every other part of his body is lazy too!
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