To The Pilot Dropping Meat Bombs at Lilydale on Sunday 4th May
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To The Pilot Dropping Meat Bombs at Lilydale on Sunday 4th May
I sat at the end of the field and watched you take off then sat in Yarra Glen enjoying lunch and watching you.
I was catching up with my Dad, who is a pilot, and we both reckoned that you were enjoying yourself quite a bit. It was good to watch you in the tight descending turn bringing her down pretty quickly, although I don't think you ever managed to beat the bombs to the ground like the meat bomber pilot at Corowa has done.
Enjoyed watching you, thanks for giving us something to look at and talk about. The old bloke and I enjoy a good chat about planes/flying/pilots/whatever.
ABX
I was catching up with my Dad, who is a pilot, and we both reckoned that you were enjoying yourself quite a bit. It was good to watch you in the tight descending turn bringing her down pretty quickly, although I don't think you ever managed to beat the bombs to the ground like the meat bomber pilot at Corowa has done.
Enjoyed watching you, thanks for giving us something to look at and talk about. The old bloke and I enjoy a good chat about planes/flying/pilots/whatever.
ABX
I was waiting for the sarcasm to come through, but it seems that you honestly enjoyed watching someone having fun with their flying. Good for you! Too many kill-joys around these parts.
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Hi ABX,
I wasn't flying on Sunday but I'm one of the meatbombers at YLIL. I've recently returned to flying after 10 years and it's an absolute blast. I don't know why others view it with such distain.
We generally fly a C182, DIJ, up to 10,000ft and back in .5 to .6hrs. From that height you can't beat the bombers back, even if you make a straight in approach. 6,000ft is a different story and we'll generally do that in 0.3hrs and I've beatne them back of several occasions.
Contrary to popualr belief it does get quite busy up their and we are constantly dealing with jet traffic into Mel. The descents are a heap of fun, and you need to keep a good eye out. Were coming down at 130 - 150kts and decending between 2000 - 3000 ft per minute. On arrival in the circuit area, we're dealing with Jabiru's so again, you need to keep s good eye out.
I haven't had this much fun in ages. On a busy day we'll make 13 runs and by the end of the day you are completely shagged. When your at YLIL next keep an eye out for the PA31. I hope to get some twin time in the coming months, need to keep working on my total time.
Glad you a good time with your dad. Pop in and say hi, we're always up for a chat.
Cheers
Omega
I wasn't flying on Sunday but I'm one of the meatbombers at YLIL. I've recently returned to flying after 10 years and it's an absolute blast. I don't know why others view it with such distain.
We generally fly a C182, DIJ, up to 10,000ft and back in .5 to .6hrs. From that height you can't beat the bombers back, even if you make a straight in approach. 6,000ft is a different story and we'll generally do that in 0.3hrs and I've beatne them back of several occasions.
Contrary to popualr belief it does get quite busy up their and we are constantly dealing with jet traffic into Mel. The descents are a heap of fun, and you need to keep a good eye out. Were coming down at 130 - 150kts and decending between 2000 - 3000 ft per minute. On arrival in the circuit area, we're dealing with Jabiru's so again, you need to keep s good eye out.
I haven't had this much fun in ages. On a busy day we'll make 13 runs and by the end of the day you are completely shagged. When your at YLIL next keep an eye out for the PA31. I hope to get some twin time in the coming months, need to keep working on my total time.
Glad you a good time with your dad. Pop in and say hi, we're always up for a chat.
Cheers
Omega
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Yoyr right yoo many kill joys. Aviation is a pation and we all enjoy the freedom of the big blue sky, some of these guys/girls need to take a step back and realise how lucky we are to do the job/hobby that we do.
keep up the good spirit stop trying to out do each other.
I was waiting for the sarcasm to come through, but it seems that you honestly enjoyed watching someone having fun with their flying. Good for you! Too many kill-joys around these parts. Today 04:37
keep up the good spirit stop trying to out do each other.
I was waiting for the sarcasm to come through, but it seems that you honestly enjoyed watching someone having fun with their flying. Good for you! Too many kill-joys around these parts. Today 04:37
We generally fly a C182, DIJ, up to 10,000ft and back in .5 to .6hrs. From that height you can't beat the bombers back
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Capt Fathom,
When I was flying meatbombs I regularly did 0.6 up and back to 10,000.
Don't know that it ever caused any wear on the engine over and above what other jump ships were experiencing but then again, I was one of the more conservative pilots.
When I was flying meatbombs I regularly did 0.6 up and back to 10,000.
Don't know that it ever caused any wear on the engine over and above what other jump ships were experiencing but then again, I was one of the more conservative pilots.
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Don't the cowl flaps act like speed brakes on the PA-31 anyway?
Nice to hear people enjoying doing what they do and others enjoying watching them do it!!
Nice to hear people enjoying doing what they do and others enjoying watching them do it!!
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Nope, no sarcasm. We enjoyed watching the action.
It was the PA31 - first time I've seen one used for meat bombing. It really looked good in a tight descending turn.
It was the PA31 - first time I've seen one used for meat bombing. It really looked good in a tight descending turn.
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I did my jump training at both LIL and TDN but haven't actually flown any sorties since. Whereas is it brilliant fun, I am only available on weekends, and there appears to be no shortage of jump pilots on the weekends. What they really need are people who can fly Mon-Fri.
.5-.6 is pretty respectable, Omega. That should keep the man very happy indeed.
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.5-.6 is pretty respectable, Omega. That should keep the man very happy indeed.
Walrus
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I agree!
I used to know a guy in Caloundra doing meatbombing out of a Queenair with geared, supercharged IGSO 480 engines! Can you imagine how long those engines lasted?
Not very long
I used to know a guy in Caloundra doing meatbombing out of a Queenair with geared, supercharged IGSO 480 engines! Can you imagine how long those engines lasted?
Not very long
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Can't see any problem with a .6 as far as the engines go.
I experimented with all types of descent in a 182 from 10,000ft and found that the quickest way wasn't in a decending turn but straight out and then straight back in. The times were about the same but less stress on the a/c going straight out then straight back in. We had no restrictions with airspace though so were pretty lucky. Some of the most fun flying I ever did, good to hear people still enjoying it. Great fun.
I experimented with all types of descent in a 182 from 10,000ft and found that the quickest way wasn't in a decending turn but straight out and then straight back in. The times were about the same but less stress on the a/c going straight out then straight back in. We had no restrictions with airspace though so were pretty lucky. Some of the most fun flying I ever did, good to hear people still enjoying it. Great fun.
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.5 - .6 to 10k sounds like heaps of time to me. Where i'm at we are doing 12k in that time and the engines here are fine. Its all in the way you handle them. I also agree that a nice out and back descent works well if you don't have any airspace restrictions.
Good to finally hear from some fellow jump pilots on these forums.
Keep it up.
Knox.
Good to finally hear from some fellow jump pilots on these forums.
Keep it up.
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up and back to 10k in .5 isn't hard even in a 206 with 7/8 pax (incl. pilot).
think about it - 5-600fpm (under 20 mins in the climb) all the way up, a minute s&l on the jump run, then 1000-1200fpm descent at 2200rpm/18"/140kts, reducing MAP 1"/1000 from 5000' to idle on short finals, joining base @ 130kts .
think about it - 5-600fpm (under 20 mins in the climb) all the way up, a minute s&l on the jump run, then 1000-1200fpm descent at 2200rpm/18"/140kts, reducing MAP 1"/1000 from 5000' to idle on short finals, joining base @ 130kts
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I've done runs in a C208 (caravan) up to FL14 and back in .3- to .4, you can even beat the the guys back to the LZ on a good day or normally your right on there heels. Good fun, best aircraft to do meat bombing in if your going to do it. Just keeps climbing thanx to the PT6 and carry's up to 17 jumpers.
Never done it in a 182 or 206.
Never done it in a 182 or 206.
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Cjam, can you explain your straight out and straight in method?? Curious to know that's all...
I found a gently banking from side to side gave some momentary increases on the good ol VSI which over the course of descent gave you an extra few hundred feet descent without any noticeble loads on the airframe.
Beer never tasted so good after 10+ runs in a Cessna during the middle of the summer
I found a gently banking from side to side gave some momentary increases on the good ol VSI which over the course of descent gave you an extra few hundred feet descent without any noticeble loads on the airframe.
Beer never tasted so good after 10+ runs in a Cessna during the middle of the summer
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I'm guessing that a descending turn helps keep the airspeed down as opposed to a straight in and out method?
Or is it simply used when there are limitations on the available airspace?
Or is it simply used when there are limitations on the available airspace?
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Sorry Bill, it was General Patton and none of the posts compare with a straight in from 10000', not commencing descent until the threshold passes out of view under the nose. Not in a puddle jumper, but a C130A at Flight Idle/100 Flap/Gear Down. No cylinders to crack or plugs to foul, and four 15' diameter speed brakes (i.e. Aeroproducts propellers)
Hey Old Fella!
I am sure there are many cracked floorboards around the country from jaws dropping reading your post.... I bet i can out do you in a Pilatus Porter from FL120....