YMMB wait times
Pfft we always have Start clearance required for circuits on the ATIS over here 
Whatever you do, don't ignore the other aircraft. You still have to follow them if you are sequenced that way, however you don't have to fly out as wide as them. You can slow down or even request to make number one to them.
It makes it exciting in the tower if you just cut them off somewhere because they were too wide, especially when there is 10 in the circuit.
Whatever you do, don't ignore the other aircraft. You still have to follow them if you are sequenced that way, however you don't have to fly out as wide as them. You can slow down or even request to make number one to them.
It makes it exciting in the tower if you just cut them off somewhere because they were too wide, especially when there is 10 in the circuit.
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I fly with GFS - only thing I notice is my instructors get really pissed off at other flying school planes who do wide circuits. We're always being told to ignore other planes and fly our own circuit.
you must fly with a different GFS then 
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Whatever you do, don't ignore the other aircraft. You still have to follow them if you are sequenced that way, however you don't have to fly out as wide as them. You can slow down or even request to make number one to them.
Get a grip
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Get a grip of it, I was an instructor at GFS in the past and they teach exactly what your second quote is saying.
Where does the attitude come from?? Yours instructors, co-workers, managers, CFI???
Don't you love PPRUNE, everyone is a hero behind their Login name, most probably 200TT heroes who think they know everything! Think outside the square and maybe you can learn from others and hopefully they can learn from you.
Get a grip of it, I was an instructor at GFS in the past and they teach exactly what your second quote is saying.
Where does the attitude come from?? Yours instructors, co-workers, managers, CFI???
Don't you love PPRUNE, everyone is a hero behind their Login name, most probably 200TT heroes who think they know everything! Think outside the square and maybe you can learn from others and hopefully they can learn from you.
sorry my bad lol thats what i meant, thanks for correcting me
dont ignore them... just dont go out as wide as someone in front of u if they do it
soz
dont ignore them... just dont go out as wide as someone in front of u if they do it
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I finished my CPL at YMMB a couple of months ago. Yes, it was busy and sometimes I had to wait one or two planes in final before being cleared to T/O, but it wasn't THAT bad. However, I would suggest to go somewhere else with cheaper hire rates, no delays and NO LANDING FEES (not Essendon of course!).
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ausflying
Get a grip of it, I was an instructor at GFS in the past and they teach exactly what your second quote is saying.
Where does the attitude come from?? Yours instructors, co-workers, managers, CFI???
Don't you love PPRUNE, everyone is a hero behind their Login name, most probably 200TT heroes who think they know everything! Think outside the square and maybe you can learn from others and hopefully they can learn from you.
Get a grip of it, I was an instructor at GFS in the past and they teach exactly what your second quote is saying.
Where does the attitude come from?? Yours instructors, co-workers, managers, CFI???
Don't you love PPRUNE, everyone is a hero behind their Login name, most probably 200TT heroes who think they know everything! Think outside the square and maybe you can learn from others and hopefully they can learn from you.
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Moorabbin movements.
About 2,100 on the 16th. 23,000 1st to 16th. Probably 40,000 plus for the month- which would be an all time record. 34,000 in March by the way. Both circuits in operation every day. By comparison Moorabbin does every three days what Essendon does every month. Different market though.
Check out the Airservices Australia website for the ‘official” data but don’t put too much store by it. Last year we kept on getting 100 plus monthly movements of aircraft over 7 tonnes, which I think I would have noticed somehow. Turned out that the RVAC Sportstars were registered with ex-Ansett B737 rego’s and Airservices did not notice.
The vast majority of movements are commercial flying training, both fixed wing and rotary. A large proportion is commercial airline sponsored training but there is an increasing percentage, especially rotary, of Australian self-starters.
The level of noise complaints has risen but not by that much. We field around 5-8 a week and Airservices a similar number. Considering you all fly over a population of 400,000 plus in the immediate area that’s not a bad ratio. In the past week complaints have risen largely because 13 has been in constant use due to crane construction work infringing the 17 OLS outside of the airport. That’s over by Tuesday.
And if any of you are at Moorabbin Sunday morning 10am-12 noon come over to the RVAC and see 30 plus youngsters being introduced to aviation- happens every month and the Young Eagles programme is a great initiative for our local population. Show them your aircraft and have a chat with them - your enthusiasm for aviation will for sure rub off on them.
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About 2,100 on the 16th. 23,000 1st to 16th. Probably 40,000 plus for the month- which would be an all time record. 34,000 in March by the way. Both circuits in operation every day. By comparison Moorabbin does every three days what Essendon does every month. Different market though.
Check out the Airservices Australia website for the ‘official” data but don’t put too much store by it. Last year we kept on getting 100 plus monthly movements of aircraft over 7 tonnes, which I think I would have noticed somehow. Turned out that the RVAC Sportstars were registered with ex-Ansett B737 rego’s and Airservices did not notice.
The vast majority of movements are commercial flying training, both fixed wing and rotary. A large proportion is commercial airline sponsored training but there is an increasing percentage, especially rotary, of Australian self-starters.
The level of noise complaints has risen but not by that much. We field around 5-8 a week and Airservices a similar number. Considering you all fly over a population of 400,000 plus in the immediate area that’s not a bad ratio. In the past week complaints have risen largely because 13 has been in constant use due to crane construction work infringing the 17 OLS outside of the airport. That’s over by Tuesday.
And if any of you are at Moorabbin Sunday morning 10am-12 noon come over to the RVAC and see 30 plus youngsters being introduced to aviation- happens every month and the Young Eagles programme is a great initiative for our local population. Show them your aircraft and have a chat with them - your enthusiasm for aviation will for sure rub off on them.
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Good post Phil - and keep giving the Young Eagles a big push - it's a great program and does work at giving young people a good start. (worked for my eldest who did his 'Eagles flight in VH JTU a few years back)
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Flew into YMMB today for my third Nav Exercise and was blown away by the amount of traffic!
5 aircraft on Base for the same RWY let alone the other traffic in the circuit area. We don't see that very often in YMAY
Who are theses guys who fly formations in the circuit?? Amazing.
Overall it was a top day especially along the coastal route towards the CBD for YMEN. You will have to put up with one more aircraft operating in YMMB 'coz I'll definitely be back you lucky sods!
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DH 200'
5 aircraft on Base for the same RWY let alone the other traffic in the circuit area. We don't see that very often in YMAY Who are theses guys who fly formations in the circuit?? Amazing.
Overall it was a top day especially along the coastal route towards the CBD for YMEN. You will have to put up with one more aircraft operating in YMMB 'coz I'll definitely be back you lucky sods!
Regards,
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The RVAC have a bunch of folks who fly around in formation in warriors, guess it would be them; we also had the young eagles day today (take kids flying, foster an interest in the whole thing), so I suspect it may have been them, and tied up with that.. Also had some interesting things on the tarmac (a stearman and a T28)
Bit murky today I thought - or did it clear up later? Running up the coast / lapping the bay is rather nice, and there's a couple of top spots for lunch on the way round too...
Had myself a pleasant early session in the alpha - not a bad day all round
Bit murky today I thought - or did it clear up later? Running up the coast / lapping the bay is rather nice, and there's a couple of top spots for lunch on the way round too...
Had myself a pleasant early session in the alpha - not a bad day all round
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> Running up the coast / lapping the bay is rather nice, and there's a couple of top spots for lunch on the way round too...
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haven't been to MB for a year or two - any new lunch spots i haven't heard of?
tooradin
http://www.lighthouseoliveoil.com.au/?p=airstrip
barwon
> Running up the coast / lapping the bay is rather nice, and there's a couple of top spots for lunch on the way round too...
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haven't been to MB for a year or two - any new lunch spots i haven't heard of?
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http://www.lighthouseoliveoil.com.au/?p=airstrip
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Thanks
Thanks folks for all the replies. Having the medical tomorrow, so we'll see what happens after that.
Given I live in the east, whereabouts are the other Melbourne airstrips? Lilydale, Coldstream, Tooradin... Any others?
Given I live in the east, whereabouts are the other Melbourne airstrips? Lilydale, Coldstream, Tooradin... Any others?
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McFlyte,
The only other one you could consider is Tyabb. I presume you are going GA? If that is the case, forget Tooradin; they closed the GA school for lack of several things a couple of years back. The RAA school is going OK, though.
As noted in a previous post, I did manage to get into MB on Saturday, but the viz was so bad due smoke (9 kms on the ATIS, but that was optimistic) that the traffic was well down everywhere. Not really representative, I gather, of the current levels.
Walrus
The only other one you could consider is Tyabb. I presume you are going GA? If that is the case, forget Tooradin; they closed the GA school for lack of several things a couple of years back. The RAA school is going OK, though.
As noted in a previous post, I did manage to get into MB on Saturday, but the viz was so bad due smoke (9 kms on the ATIS, but that was optimistic) that the traffic was well down everywhere. Not really representative, I gather, of the current levels.
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Thanks Walrus,
Yeah, it will be GA. Found the Tooradin site after posting the last entry and found they'd shut down the GA training.
Coldstream looks to be RVAC only. Will check out Tyabb but will probably end up in Moorabbin or Lilydale out of convenience.
Medical was fine, now I have to see the Opthamologist (sp?). Then I'll submit for an ASIC/AVID... Lots of cash before getting in the air!
Yeah, it will be GA. Found the Tooradin site after posting the last entry and found they'd shut down the GA training.
Coldstream looks to be RVAC only. Will check out Tyabb but will probably end up in Moorabbin or Lilydale out of convenience.
Medical was fine, now I have to see the Opthamologist (sp?). Then I'll submit for an ASIC/AVID... Lots of cash before getting in the air!
