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"He also warned unions they needed to ensure the airline remained competitive, and how they responded to that challenge would determine how much work went offshore".
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I remember when Gav lost the Singapore contract through gross incompetence then made everything better by figuring out that if he were to get rid of 20 lames from the SIT all would be well !!
Way to go Gav !!! Can't wait for your next call ! and some folk are saying, give the guy a chance !!
When are QF going to bring in some one with a track record????
Way to go Gav !!! Can't wait for your next call ! and some folk are saying, give the guy a chance !!When are QF going to bring in some one with a track record????
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No delay as Dixon pockets $12m Qantas pay cheque
· Matt O'Sullivan
· October 1, 2008
QANTAS'S departing boss, Geoff Dixon, was paid almost $12 million last financial year, at the same time he was calling for wage restraint from staff to counter high jet fuel prices.
The salaries for Mr Dixon and his senior executives are likely to create discontent among the airline's staff, who have faced a management intent on capping wage rises at 3 per cent a year and which has laid off 1500 workers.
Mr Dixon's total package of $11.92 million for the year to June included a cash bonus of $3 million and almost $6.4 million in share-based payments. The value of the share component has fallen since grant date and was worth $3.86 million at year-end. Nevertheless, it is big rise on 2006-07, when Mr Dixon's total package reached $6.5 million.
Qantas's share price fell 45 per cent last financial year as it battled high fuel prices and a slowing economy in the last quarter. Yesterday the stock fell 10c, to $3.13.
The airline has also faced heightened fears about the safety of its aircraft and serious problems with its schedules after a 10-week industrial dispute with aircraft engineers.
In May Qantas said it was freezing senior executive pay in response to the high fuel prices.
The carrier's annual report, released yesterday, shows the total package for the former chief financial officer Peter Gregg rose about 50 per cent, to $6.04 million. It included a share-based payment of almost $3 million (worth about $2 million at year-end) and a cash bonus of $1.48 million.
The third-in-charge at Qantas, John Borghetti, took away $2.69 million - almost unchanged - as well as share-based payments of $2.8 million ($2 million at year-end).
Qantas's chief executive-in-waiting, Alan Joyce, enjoyed a 44 per cent increase in his pay to $2.4 million for the year. Mr Joyce, the boss of Jetstar until this week, also benefited from share-based payments valued at $2.3 million at grant date.
Unions have been seeking annual pay rises of about 5 per cent for their members at Qantas.
· Matt O'Sullivan
· October 1, 2008
QANTAS'S departing boss, Geoff Dixon, was paid almost $12 million last financial year, at the same time he was calling for wage restraint from staff to counter high jet fuel prices.
The salaries for Mr Dixon and his senior executives are likely to create discontent among the airline's staff, who have faced a management intent on capping wage rises at 3 per cent a year and which has laid off 1500 workers.
Mr Dixon's total package of $11.92 million for the year to June included a cash bonus of $3 million and almost $6.4 million in share-based payments. The value of the share component has fallen since grant date and was worth $3.86 million at year-end. Nevertheless, it is big rise on 2006-07, when Mr Dixon's total package reached $6.5 million.
Qantas's share price fell 45 per cent last financial year as it battled high fuel prices and a slowing economy in the last quarter. Yesterday the stock fell 10c, to $3.13.
The airline has also faced heightened fears about the safety of its aircraft and serious problems with its schedules after a 10-week industrial dispute with aircraft engineers.
In May Qantas said it was freezing senior executive pay in response to the high fuel prices.
The carrier's annual report, released yesterday, shows the total package for the former chief financial officer Peter Gregg rose about 50 per cent, to $6.04 million. It included a share-based payment of almost $3 million (worth about $2 million at year-end) and a cash bonus of $1.48 million.
The third-in-charge at Qantas, John Borghetti, took away $2.69 million - almost unchanged - as well as share-based payments of $2.8 million ($2 million at year-end).
Qantas's chief executive-in-waiting, Alan Joyce, enjoyed a 44 per cent increase in his pay to $2.4 million for the year. Mr Joyce, the boss of Jetstar until this week, also benefited from share-based payments valued at $2.3 million at grant date.
Unions have been seeking annual pay rises of about 5 per cent for their members at Qantas.
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Not sure what to make of the latest union announcement. It seems the company is crying poor that they have insuff manpower to clear a backlog, and are requesting more casual workers because they can't get enough overtimers. WTF!! I know of plenty of LAME's who are willing to work O/T but are not being asked. It seems that the bulls#!t continues to justify outsourcing and cheap labour.
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Does Line Maintenance Management realise that there are plenty of LAME's in the Heavy Maintenance sheds getting minimal to no overtime that are ready and willing to assist the Line boys at any time? All they have to do is ask. If the backlog is so bad on the line, surely Heavy Maintenance Management could let a few LAME's go every now and then. It's not like the blokes are run flat off their feet in the middle of a C4 check (except the sheetys!). It shouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility to establish an arrangement between the two departments to get some sort of call in system going. Obviously first option at OT being the lineys and then if not enough take up, look at the Heavy Maintenance availability list and call em up. Would any Line guys care to comment? Would you prefer Heavy Maintenance blokes come to assist on OT or would you prefer casuals from outside? Furthermore, I note that in the latest ALAEA notice, it is advised that casuals (if they end up working on line) would be prime candidates for taking up permanent positions as they become available. In my opinion, it should be the Heavy Maintenace and Base Maintenance guys that should be the prime candidates and indeed be given preference for any permanent positions that become available on line. To my mind it seems a logical career progression to develop from apprentice to heavy/base as ame then lame and then progress to line. Any comments?
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Just a couple of quick answers guys. The recruitment is in to Base Maint Syd so no heavy guys are being cut out unless you wanted a transfer into Syd which I think could be organised.
Any idea for overtime management would be welcomed by the new managers, our meeting was a positive one and yes HM to Line is something already being explored. We have already highlighted that some Line guys are putting their names down for OT and don't get called. I think it is a matter of lining up the workload with known manpower levels.
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Any idea for overtime management would be welcomed by the new managers, our meeting was a positive one and yes HM to Line is something already being explored. We have already highlighted that some Line guys are putting their names down for OT and don't get called. I think it is a matter of lining up the workload with known manpower levels.
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Ur spot on NGINEER!!
They are crying poor again,how many chances have they had and still dont know how to treat their workforce with some respect.YES-there are lots of people willing to work o/t(well maybe not so many as before they decided to bully and screw us any way they could during the pia) but as u say the opportunity is NEVER offered.Its time they came out face to face with the workers and listened to how we feel.Get the basics right(including reinstating the pay of all the people who were docked) and then we might think about working o/t or whatever.Remember-an elephant never forgets!
For what its worth-im in agreement with giving the new boss a go,we could be surprised.
They are crying poor again,how many chances have they had and still dont know how to treat their workforce with some respect.YES-there are lots of people willing to work o/t(well maybe not so many as before they decided to bully and screw us any way they could during the pia) but as u say the opportunity is NEVER offered.Its time they came out face to face with the workers and listened to how we feel.Get the basics right(including reinstating the pay of all the people who were docked) and then we might think about working o/t or whatever.Remember-an elephant never forgets!
For what its worth-im in agreement with giving the new boss a go,we could be surprised.
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Before time moves on too long, how is the EBA IX log of claims going.
In light of the wage increase of those on the top of the ladder, are we looking at 50% wage rises also?
In light of the wage increase of those on the top of the ladder, are we looking at 50% wage rises also?
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Does Line Maintenance Management realise that there are plenty of LAME's in the Heavy Maintenance sheds getting minimal to no overtime that are ready and willing to assist the Line boys at any time? All they have to do is ask. If the backlog is so bad on the line, surely Heavy Maintenance Management could let a few LAME's go every now and then. It's not like the blokes are run flat off their feet in the middle of a C4 check (except the sheetys!). It shouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility to establish an arrangement between the two departments to get some sort of call in system going. Obviously first option at OT being the lineys and then if not enough take up, look at the Heavy Maintenance availability list and call em up. Would any Line guys care to comment? Would you prefer Heavy Maintenance blokes come to assist on OT or would you prefer casuals from outside? Furthermore, I note that in the latest ALAEA notice, it is advised that casuals (if they end up working on line) would be prime candidates for taking up permanent positions as they become available. In my opinion, it should be the Heavy Maintenace and Base Maintenance guys that should be the prime candidates and indeed be given preference for any permanent positions that become available on line. To my mind it seems a logical career progression to develop from apprentice to heavy/base as ame then lame and then progress to line. Any comments?
With the current change in engineering management, we can only hope that there is acknowledgement from management of the stuff ups of the past management and move on, otherwise it's just more of the same, but with different names.
It will take more than just O/T to fix the mess that has been left by MH and created by DC. Maybe he should be replaced and have a totally clean slate to start with.
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With the current change in engineering management
It will need a monumental mindset and management personnel change to begin a positive effect.
Coupled with the news of Dixon's payout - it just reinforces what we have all despised about this crop of management - their lies, greed, selfishness etc etc.
Frankly, it's disgusting.
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I totally agree. The French Prime Minister has described the current credit crunch as being "on the edge of an abyss". Oil prices have fell back to $90 because of world recession due a slowing in demand. Spain, Ireland, Japan and the Netherlands to name a few, are all in recession. Dixon steps off the podium after saying 2009 will be very tough and puts his hand out for the $12m after wasting $150m fighting LAMEs over $2-$3m. I'm not angry, I just feel disillusioned by the immoral and unethical acts corporate leaders display. For our world to be a better place we can do without these two-faced parasites like GD. There are some great leaders out there but unfortunately we encountered one the most distasteful CEO Qantas has ever appointed. I laugh at the one time GD had to make a decision (APA Equity takeover) and it would have sent us to the wall. If oil prices didn't nail us the heavily laden debt we would have carried under the equity model would have. Could you imagine QF obtaining more debt in the climate that will surround business in the next few years. As usual the big red rat was lucky, this time it saved our jobs.
Let's move on and hope his legacy of short term profit, ahead of customers and employees not forgetting deception, lies, greed .....is forever forgotten. I hope his mother still loves him?
Even though some of my peers are reluctant to forget too quickly about the buggery campaign, like any good relationship we need to forgive and move on (note: I did note say forget). Bitterness won't help our long term goals of getting engineering back to the high standards we all know can be achieved.
Coupled with the news of Dixon's payout - it just reinforces what we have all despised about this crop of management - their lies, greed, selfishness etc etc.
Let's move on and hope his legacy of short term profit, ahead of customers and employees not forgetting deception, lies, greed .....is forever forgotten. I hope his mother still loves him?
Even though some of my peers are reluctant to forget too quickly about the buggery campaign, like any good relationship we need to forgive and move on (note: I did note say forget). Bitterness won't help our long term goals of getting engineering back to the high standards we all know can be achieved.
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TBP the buggery campaign still lives on in most ports just ask the guys in Cairns, Darwin, Perth, Melbourne, Sydney and Avalon
That is why it is hard to move on it seems the middle managers or the now defunct MACs still have a lot of sh!t on their livers
That is why it is hard to move on it seems the middle managers or the now defunct MACs still have a lot of sh!t on their livers
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Clean Out
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To get the maint back on track there has to be more managers leaving. D.C would be a good start to show the company is serious about fixing the problem.
Also in far north QLD there are two DMM's that dont knowthe PIA is over,they are still victimising certain workers who took part in the PIA.
I am suprised they still have jobs.
All i can think is this situation will be taken care of in December when Cairns has a restructure. Cant wait to wave these GREEDY tools goodbye.
To get the maint back on track there has to be more managers leaving. D.C would be a good start to show the company is serious about fixing the problem.
Also in far north QLD there are two DMM's that dont knowthe PIA is over,they are still victimising certain workers who took part in the PIA.
I am suprised they still have jobs.
All i can think is this situation will be taken care of in December when Cairns has a restructure. Cant wait to wave these GREEDY tools goodbye.
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DIXON & CO., YOU GREED FUELLED INDIVIDUALS, THIS MEANS YOU
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don't be fooled...
A point worth noting is that GH was chosen and mentored by BD. I think that the plan QF wanted that threw BD and brought in MH was in hindsight MH's undoing. However, the agenda BD was following may now be back in voque as his cadet is now in the high chair. Does this mean permanent nightshifts again...? MH was the outlaw of permanent NS remember... not BD!
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Re: NGINEER post 4287 & TALKWRENCH post 4289
"Futhermore, i note that in the latest ALAEA notice, it is advised that casuals (if they end up working on-line) would be prime candidates for taking up permanent positions..."
If it's like two certain part-timers at SIT you have no worries about casuals or them getting a full time position as the pair haven't signed a Return To Service or made a log entry in two years or more. One of them is being paid for a 747 rating that is on his CASA licence but never has had it converted in the EQ system. This has been going on for the last eight years. Additionally if he does get cornered to sign for the classic, which comes across to SIT about twice a year, he can't remember his licence number. These two have set the benchmark for the company (as SIT management know about them) and future part time/casual employees. What a joke.
If it's like two certain part-timers at SIT you have no worries about casuals or them getting a full time position as the pair haven't signed a Return To Service or made a log entry in two years or more. One of them is being paid for a 747 rating that is on his CASA licence but never has had it converted in the EQ system. This has been going on for the last eight years. Additionally if he does get cornered to sign for the classic, which comes across to SIT about twice a year, he can't remember his licence number. These two have set the benchmark for the company (as SIT management know about them) and future part time/casual employees. What a joke.