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To Fed Sec,
Great job by yourself and the team at Bexly! A good outcome under very trying conditions. My only question is how the backpay is calculated? Is it calculated from 1/1/07 to 31/12/07 at 3%, and 1/1/08 to the first pay after lodgement at 1.5% plus the level increase, or the whole backpay back to 1/1/07 calculated on the value of the first pay after lodgement? .......Hope this makes sense, I'm starting to confuse myself!
Great job by yourself and the team at Bexly! A good outcome under very trying conditions. My only question is how the backpay is calculated? Is it calculated from 1/1/07 to 31/12/07 at 3%, and 1/1/08 to the first pay after lodgement at 1.5% plus the level increase, or the whole backpay back to 1/1/07 calculated on the value of the first pay after lodgement? .......Hope this makes sense, I'm starting to confuse myself!
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Considering the pressure exerted by the company and others, and the implications that could have been involved if this went to arbitration, I think this is a great result and the ALAEA team should hold their heads high.
Well done.
I am one of the ones who get the minimal end of the increase.
My Vote
Guess we didn't have any luck with the King Gee shirts any anti sack sweat pants!
Well done.
I am one of the ones who get the minimal end of the increase.
My Vote
Guess we didn't have any luck with the King Gee shirts any anti sack sweat pants!
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Well i was well and truly proven to be a cynical prick...Well done to everyone, just worked it out if i was still at QF, and it worked out to be just under 10% for two years...A great result...
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all that for so little. next time just take the first offer. if this is the best we can do we all all in trouble
You could be greedy and take cash upfront and sell your soul & that of upcoming LAMEs.
I for one have scraped bare bones increases but am happy to see those behind me reaping the benefit.
This is about saving engineering as a career for all, not just a few.
P.S. Still waiting for the fat lady to sing (see the document) and if it is tarnished ............ the fight is still on.
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Good result. Well done to the exec. Now look at the document and vote with your head. The bridge of trust has been forever burned,No more will the ilk defame our name. the bodies of our enemies did not float by,But we all have to seperate the issues. Time for sp and exec to take a well deserved break. How about a motion for the exec to have a holiday on the members?
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I am heading for the ignore list
Thanks for the hard work Bexley boys!!
I think we need to look at the document very closely. A big point in our arguments have been CPI, which is about 4.3%. Now looking at the table in the document on page 2, LAME's Level 4 and below are slightly up on CPI and level 5 and above clock in below CPI. (Now I gain because I am level 4 so no sour grapes and so on......)
So once again we get less than the cost of living increase.
This is the first offer the company made after taking major pain during the PIA campaign, now call me a cynic but you wouldn't expect them to come back with the offer that suited us best.
I know that the EBA is a democratic vote, but the company knows they only have to please 51% of the members to get it up.
I think we need to look at the document very closely. A big point in our arguments have been CPI, which is about 4.3%. Now looking at the table in the document on page 2, LAME's Level 4 and below are slightly up on CPI and level 5 and above clock in below CPI. (Now I gain because I am level 4 so no sour grapes and so on......)
So once again we get less than the cost of living increase.
This is the first offer the company made after taking major pain during the PIA campaign, now call me a cynic but you wouldn't expect them to come back with the offer that suited us best.
I know that the EBA is a democratic vote, but the company knows they only have to please 51% of the members to get it up.
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moving forward..
Excellent result to the executive . Well done lads. Let us maintain the resolve through to EBA IX and beyond. (sounds like Buzz Lightyear, hey!).
Just one question to clarify , what is the progression to get through to the upper grades? Is it 'training points' or a 'full type rating'. Been bugging me for years what the 'Technology Points were...'.
. Well done lads. Let us maintain the resolve through to EBA IX and beyond. (sounds like Buzz Lightyear, hey!).Just one question to clarify , what is the progression to get through to the upper grades? Is it 'training points' or a 'full type rating'. Been bugging me for years what the 'Technology Points were...'.
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Question ????
If the EBA was voted YES, and I was currently a Mechanical Level 9 waiting to go to Level 10 as of the anniversary date in August 2007 - will I go through Level 10, and up to Level 11 after all is said and done, or will I be trapped at Level 10 until further training?
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Good Result, well done Federal Exec
Have read the document and done the numbers, lots of permutations but it looks like a far fairer deal for all particularly at the lower end.
There is little doubt that this deal (If it is not welshed on by QF management) is a victory for all Qantas LAMEs. Our position within the company is stronger for our action and the unity shown is an example for all. I don't care how the company try to sell it we have taken the moral high ground and stood together.
Great Job
There is little doubt that this deal (If it is not welshed on by QF management) is a victory for all Qantas LAMEs. Our position within the company is stronger for our action and the unity shown is an example for all. I don't care how the company try to sell it we have taken the moral high ground and stood together.
Great Job
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"New Qantas Type LAME entry set at level 4"
Does this mean if you were already a level 3 on 1/1/07 you would go up to level 4 as of this date?
Does this mean if you were already a level 3 on 1/1/07 you would go up to level 4 as of this date?
If the EBA was voted YES, and I was currently a Mechanical Level 9 waiting to go to Level 10 as of the anniversary date in August 2007 - will I go through Level 10, and up to Level 11 after all is said and done, or will I be trapped at Level 10 until further training?
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technoloy compliance Vs training points
Well done ALAEA team. Thanks for all your hard work and long nights.
Just Question for you all.(EG).... Will A level 12 or 13 LAME progress up one level for the 1st of Jan 2008 plus 1.5%? Is Progression through the grading system with technology and compliance considered the same as training points? Will progression for this purpose be quota restricted?
If so, is this a view shared by both parties to the agreement.Just thought that should be cleared up, As todays Notice Does say "plus a level for every LAME". Thanks guys sure you have it covered.
Well Done!
Just Question for you all.(EG).... Will A level 12 or 13 LAME progress up one level for the 1st of Jan 2008 plus 1.5%? Is Progression through the grading system with technology and compliance considered the same as training points? Will progression for this purpose be quota restricted?
If so, is this a view shared by both parties to the agreement.Just thought that should be cleared up, As todays Notice Does say "plus a level for every LAME". Thanks guys sure you have it covered.
Well Done!
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BNE Heavy Maintenance Flexibilities.
Page 3 Dot Point #21
If the answer is the second part of my question's then QF have now got their foot in the door for their flexibilities rosters. This will now flow all the way down the east coast of Australia into MEL Heavy. I know for a fact that my old brothers down there are NOT going to want a bar of this!
Don't let the dollar signs suck you in guys, read the document in its entirety and fully understand what each clause means and says. Remember your brothers in other ports and how some of these clauses may effect them. You have all stuck together up to this point, don't get selfish now for a lousy buck!
- BNE Heavy Maintenance flexibilities only to be enacted when A330's returned to BNE
If the answer is the second part of my question's then QF have now got their foot in the door for their flexibilities rosters. This will now flow all the way down the east coast of Australia into MEL Heavy. I know for a fact that my old brothers down there are NOT going to want a bar of this!
Don't let the dollar signs suck you in guys, read the document in its entirety and fully understand what each clause means and says. Remember your brothers in other ports and how some of these clauses may effect them. You have all stuck together up to this point, don't get selfish now for a lousy buck!