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Mr Trader, I hope the castle that you live in is not made of glass. After having a go at MENDAERO and Chemical with regard to their spelling and grammar, you butcher your own post with numerous errors.
I do not have a vast knowledge of LEAN within the entire QE world, but if what I have seen of it in SYD makes QE a world class MRO, I would be flabbergasted. LEAN has got a lot of inept 'engineers' time away from aircraft (usually on double dollars) and produced some document benches (which we should have already had if we were world's best practice). Oh yes, I forgot. We have a couple of sets of traffic lights, very useful. Some parts cabinets, which were removed because QE isn't world's best practice. Apart from that, what has LEAN produced?
Mr Trader, please identify other world leading MROs who treat their employees so poorly? No increase in renumeration for 28 months (and counting)! No type training, or very little, for 5 years (and counting)! Oh, I nearly forgot, a management team who are unable to lead. (Why do they have two clocks on the wall at SIT with different times on them?)
I do not have a vast knowledge of LEAN within the entire QE world, but if what I have seen of it in SYD makes QE a world class MRO, I would be flabbergasted. LEAN has got a lot of inept 'engineers' time away from aircraft (usually on double dollars) and produced some document benches (which we should have already had if we were world's best practice). Oh yes, I forgot. We have a couple of sets of traffic lights, very useful. Some parts cabinets, which were removed because QE isn't world's best practice. Apart from that, what has LEAN produced?
Mr Trader, please identify other world leading MROs who treat their employees so poorly? No increase in renumeration for 28 months (and counting)! No type training, or very little, for 5 years (and counting)! Oh, I nearly forgot, a management team who are unable to lead. (Why do they have two clocks on the wall at SIT with different times on them?)
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If Qf is a world leading MRO why do the QE 380 team have to fight tooth and nail for every bit of A380 infrastructure and tooling. Qf want the aircraft but they really dont want all the hassles that come with maintaining it.
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I have returned to explain all
Perth - Will vote against (but still the self few will vote for their payrises)
Adelaide and Brisbane ACS - Will be 50/50 so will not matter, once again thinking of only themselves
Other outbases - Inconsequential
Melbourne - Whilst being the Union HQ of Aus, it has the most % 'high levels of any port' so some will say NO NO NO but vote YES YES YES especially our company puppets that continually come in on OT despite being asked 'politely' not to Selfishness knows no bounds, God love it.
Sydney - BASE - Much like Melbourne as in doin OT but crying solidarity
Sydney - SIT - Most selfish bunch in the network all they care about is the A380 while they fight over that all will be lost
Sydney - SDT - Exactly like Melbourne biggest whingers poorest performers doing OT hand over fist
SO YOU SEE OUR PUPPETS HAVE EFFECTIVELY NEGATED YOUR UNION"S GOOD TACTICS,
yes I say GOOD because no one else have annoyed the sh!t out of us like they have, Hand grenade throwing SP, Brick Walls PC and WV, Volatile MW and WB, I control Heavy BB yet all it means NOTHING because you LOSERS will vote YES
GOD I LOVE IT HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
50% + 1 that's all we need and because of your patheticness we now have got it
Perth - Will vote against (but still the self few will vote for their payrises)
Adelaide and Brisbane ACS - Will be 50/50 so will not matter, once again thinking of only themselves
Other outbases - Inconsequential
Melbourne - Whilst being the Union HQ of Aus, it has the most % 'high levels of any port' so some will say NO NO NO but vote YES YES YES especially our company puppets that continually come in on OT despite being asked 'politely' not to Selfishness knows no bounds, God love it.
Sydney - BASE - Much like Melbourne as in doin OT but crying solidarity
Sydney - SIT - Most selfish bunch in the network all they care about is the A380 while they fight over that all will be lost
Sydney - SDT - Exactly like Melbourne biggest whingers poorest performers doing OT hand over fist
SO YOU SEE OUR PUPPETS HAVE EFFECTIVELY NEGATED YOUR UNION"S GOOD TACTICS,
yes I say GOOD because no one else have annoyed the sh!t out of us like they have, Hand grenade throwing SP, Brick Walls PC and WV, Volatile MW and WB, I control Heavy BB yet all it means NOTHING because you LOSERS will vote YES
GOD I LOVE IT HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
50% + 1 that's all we need and because of your patheticness we now have got it
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Well Well Johnny V you are a t@rd no doubt, but you are right about about one thing
Your company puppets are PATHETIC
Not a moral bone in their body whinge, p!ss and moan about the union but refuse to actually do anything but line their pockets with blood money.
On the other hand the majority of the silent membership are good men and will vote accordingly
THE MAIN POINTS OF THIS EBA ARE
Its does not give a 5% payrise to EVERYONE
If your one of the 70% THAT MAY think about how YOU would feel to be DUPED by your work colleagues
IT ONLY CAMOUFLAGES NASTIES THAT ARE TO COME
NO MAN TRANSIT
SYDNEY PRECINCT
PAYRISES FOR DMMs, MSs, DTMs and other scum who leech off our strengths but do nothing to assist our cause
IF YOU VOTE YES YOU CONDEHM YOURSELVES AS OTHERS
TIME TO MAKE A STAND
NOT FOR MONEY, NOT FOR PROMOTION
BUT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT
AN EQUAL OUTCOME FOR ALL
Your company puppets are PATHETIC
Not a moral bone in their body whinge, p!ss and moan about the union but refuse to actually do anything but line their pockets with blood money.
On the other hand the majority of the silent membership are good men and will vote accordingly
THE MAIN POINTS OF THIS EBA ARE
Its does not give a 5% payrise to EVERYONE
If your one of the 70% THAT MAY think about how YOU would feel to be DUPED by your work colleagues
IT ONLY CAMOUFLAGES NASTIES THAT ARE TO COME
NO MAN TRANSIT
SYDNEY PRECINCT
PAYRISES FOR DMMs, MSs, DTMs and other scum who leech off our strengths but do nothing to assist our cause
IF YOU VOTE YES YOU CONDEHM YOURSELVES AS OTHERS
TIME TO MAKE A STAND
NOT FOR MONEY, NOT FOR PROMOTION
BUT FOR WHAT IS RIGHT
AN EQUAL OUTCOME FOR ALL
Johnny V re: post 581
Hi Johnny V, Re: post 581: I hope you are not basing your predictions on info from the same sources that told you the likely outcome of the Heavy Maintenance Flexibilities in EBA 8 Ballot. Just to refresh: Management said Avalon will get up, Brisbane will get up easily and Melbourne will be line ball 50/50. The actual outcomes: Avalon (the last bastion of the industrially compliant LAME) went down (although it was very close). Brisbane went down 55 to 35 (not a whitewash but a very clear result). Melbourne went down 104 to 9 (yes, you read correctly, 104 no, 9 yes). So John, I daresay that you don’t quite have the handle on the situation that think you have. But then again, when you’re playing with the house’s money, who cares!!
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Hi All,
Has anyone read the latest EBA Notice from those inexperienced clowns in the Bexley Bunker? Seems the man that once held my position has fallen back in favour with SP, PC and WV. Does anyone no what his plans are or when and if they are going to strike.
Has anyone read the latest EBA Notice from those inexperienced clowns in the Bexley Bunker? Seems the man that once held my position has fallen back in favour with SP, PC and WV. Does anyone no what his plans are or when and if they are going to strike.
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Cheese Slices Aligning!
QE management decide that it's makes business sense to be 'at war' with it's engineering staff. No EBA for LAMEs, no serious training for anyone but a select few, staff shortages, maintenance being forced through with undue haste, inadequate renumeration.
Although the investigations into the last few incidents are yet to be published, there does seem to be a common thread. Does anybody else get the feeling that the holes in the cheese slices are starting to align?
Although the investigations into the last few incidents are yet to be published, there does seem to be a common thread. Does anybody else get the feeling that the holes in the cheese slices are starting to align?
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ALAEA notice out today !!!
Reading between the lines, I don't think they're entirely satisfied with the "best solution" recommended by the consultant. Nice to know what that might be...
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Have heard that the consultant (lets call him bruce) has recommended only 1 solution and that solution will be rubber stamped next Wed. It seems that the union have some inside running on the operation of the airline and know what is about to come. No-man transits, a common Syd roster for all, no training, mergers in Mel and Bne and line maint outsourcing. They will be opening up exciting new opportunities at Avalon though, just don't be expected to get paid for your licences.
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2 left from CBR
50+ from AVV
10+ from BNE Hvy
3 from Base
It seems the wages at QF just don't measure up to world rates and don't get me started about the training !!!!
50+ from AVV
10+ from BNE Hvy
3 from Base
It seems the wages at QF just don't measure up to world rates and don't get me started about the training !!!!
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Does anyone else smell a rat here?
How can any mob of manager do what has been done, sabotage a great working group, to engineer it to fail,
unless it is being done to set us up for a fall. A fall that will see the end of QE.
The result
1. save a few dollars in the short term and earn a big sweet bonus
2. with the arrival of 150 odd new aircraft, I think QF have no idea how to service them and just wants to outsource the problem.
After all, this is new new way of doing business at QF, outsource and claim compensation.
I wish I could just give up on a defect and say it is someone else's problem.
I can't and won't...
SC
How can any mob of manager do what has been done, sabotage a great working group, to engineer it to fail,
unless it is being done to set us up for a fall. A fall that will see the end of QE.
The result
1. save a few dollars in the short term and earn a big sweet bonus
2. with the arrival of 150 odd new aircraft, I think QF have no idea how to service them and just wants to outsource the problem.
After all, this is new new way of doing business at QF, outsource and claim compensation.
I wish I could just give up on a defect and say it is someone else's problem.
I can't and won't...
SC
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Maybe some time ago, QE approached JHAS and asked them to buy the business. Transfer of business, no VR or CR, and no more engineering staff on the books.
JHAS said, no thanks. Not while the business is like it is.
They said, when there is less staff and more profit, come back and see us.
So VR started and it was costing money. Then the plan was hatched to upset as many staff as possible so they just walk out the door.
As soon as QE numbers are down and profits are up, someone will finally agree to buy.
Dicko’s plans with QE are always short term as he has always intended to get rid of it.
So maybe our plan should be; never be profitable so no sane company will ever agree to buy. I know, Sounds silly, but if you want to stay employed by Qantas you have to be silly.
JHAS said, no thanks. Not while the business is like it is.
They said, when there is less staff and more profit, come back and see us.
So VR started and it was costing money. Then the plan was hatched to upset as many staff as possible so they just walk out the door.
As soon as QE numbers are down and profits are up, someone will finally agree to buy.
Dicko’s plans with QE are always short term as he has always intended to get rid of it.
So maybe our plan should be; never be profitable so no sane company will ever agree to buy. I know, Sounds silly, but if you want to stay employed by Qantas you have to be silly.
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Classic dropped into ADL this afternoon with a cracked J class window.....
.....another piece of cheese is lined up........
Good one GD,KM,MA-H etc....you clowns are going to be remembered as the guys who destroyed 80+ years of safe flying, the way these cheese slices are lining up........
QF's safety record is worth WAAAAY more than you think in the flying public's mind.
QF sure won't be able to charge double for business class once they stack one!!
.....another piece of cheese is lined up........
Good one GD,KM,MA-H etc....you clowns are going to be remembered as the guys who destroyed 80+ years of safe flying, the way these cheese slices are lining up........
QF's safety record is worth WAAAAY more than you think in the flying public's mind.
QF sure won't be able to charge double for business class once they stack one!!
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johny v - i am glad you are stuck in that bne heavy maint ****hole-
you looser
the ALAEA had the chance to carry out industrail action including a ban on OT -THEY had the gun but could not pull the trigger-
but keep peddling the bull**** asshole
you looser
the ALAEA had the chance to carry out industrail action including a ban on OT -THEY had the gun but could not pull the trigger-
but keep peddling the bull**** asshole
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QF's safety record is worth WAAAAY more than you think in the flying public's mind.
Punctuality?
Cabin service?
A new interior?
Operational IFE?
A Dash 8 to CBR?
We're only just holding our own against our competitors and no wonder. A hull loss and loss of life will, for many, remove the last reason left to fly QF.
At least the managers will be comfortably well off in their new jobs in another corporation, well removed from facing the consequences of their destructive decisions.
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Had a chat to mate in syd base he said that the guys there are sick of the bull****, management has been running 'secret info meetings' with special LAMEs asking them what was the feeling on the floor and can they 'assist' pushing the company's line.
A Freudian slip was when one of the DMMs taking the meet said the union was winning, when quizzed he said "No I meant the company were winning, the men are turning on the exec'
I suspect the union's position of biding their time may be having the desired effect on the bunnies in management.
Stay strong
Fight hard
Don't give up
Soldier of F, are you drunk ? Johnny V is an obvious company stooge you berate him then side with him
A Freudian slip was when one of the DMMs taking the meet said the union was winning, when quizzed he said "No I meant the company were winning, the men are turning on the exec'
I suspect the union's position of biding their time may be having the desired effect on the bunnies in management.
Stay strong
Fight hard
Don't give up
Soldier of F, are you drunk ? Johnny V is an obvious company stooge you berate him then side with him