Merged: Qantaslink Traineeship/Cadetship/General Employment

[charlie uniform mike]

"Thats just the start of it, all current Qantas cadet pilots that graduated last week from Adelaide, have been told that there are no current options for them to work in Qlink or mainline as they are both full!! Such a kick in the guts also.. "

What do you think will happen to the 30 odd cadets down in melbourne when they finish early next year then?? It cant be looking good for them?

[aviationboy]

rubbish happybandit.
I am a classic FO for sunnies and i have been doing around 50hrs/month. 400 fo/s have been doing even less at around 30-50hrs. We assume this will increase in the coming months as training decreases. Duff Shark is quite correct in saying that training captains are being grilled.

[Wing Root]

There's stage 3 interviews and sims for D/E throughout November. If the general theme of this thread is to be believed then you would think there will be no spots for these pilots... or are they now seeking people with hours which will allow a shorter time for command upgrade?

[Spinnerhead]

Happy Bandit maybe talking about the goings on at Eastern. Although why he would get 400 flying (95% Sunnies and 100% Sunnies AOC) mixed up with what is going on in Sydney - I have no idea.

I am sure that management are very happy with their trainees - they created them. The line captains are finding them a little more challenging compared to what they were getting just 12 months ago.

[Bort Simpson]

Q400 are on the Sunnies AOC but are being cross crewed by eastern drivers out of sydney (TW AY CH PMQ and some CB). So he could be refering to the sydney based contrast.

[climingflightlevels]

Wing Root there are still D/E FO's that have been accepted in July waiting for a start that I know of. If they are still interviewing it would be just to give themselves a bigger pool of pilots to choose from as some have obviously gone elsewhere. There is also the consideration that they are getting 9 more Q400's earlier in the new year....

[mpl_yz250]

Gun Knutt,

I'm in the same boat as you, left a well paying management job in another industry to fufill QL requirements to be told you need to wait another 9-12 months (probably more now). I have just landed a job steering 19 seat turbines around, and deal with the company owner daily. Thanks QL for getting me off my arse and out of my comfort zone, I now have a great job without the associated politics.

[Pablo E]

Is this program officially over?

This thread seem's to be!

There must be someone out there that know's something!

[Aviator500]

Pablo - I was wondering the same thing. I notice that the 'traineeship' is 'not currently open' on their website....

[Dragun]

That's because even junior FO's are being rostered for only 4-5 days work per roster! Gross over supply of FO's at the moment so don't hold your breath for any courses anytime soon...

[jackson's_joyflights]

Long time no post!

Hello all fellow QL traineeship hopefulls,

Just wondering if anyone has any idea when the last group to get through training in Melbourne or Sydney was?
and
Do QL have any time table for the future of the traineeship program?
also
Anyone else still awaiting information on active hold?

I applied for the program in Feb last year. Interview was in April 08 and I was offered a conditional offer on the spot.

I meet the conditions as required (Along with Bachelor Degree in Aviation). I was informed in August that I would be put on "ACTIVE HOLD" and I am still awaiting information about this active hold. (Whatever that is supposed to REALLY mean).

I understand that this may be a dead thread as the program is no longer active and many people have been left out in the cold, but can anyone shed any light on the situation?

Thanks,

Jackson

[eternity]

Same boat as you

Hi Jackson,


Am in the same boat as you.
On "Active Hold" with a 'proposed' start date of either the 2nd or 3rd quarter of this year.

However, since this whole 'global economic debacle', I have not been given any updated information.

If anyone else has any information, or gossip they fell like passing off as information then please do share.

Eternity.

[grumpy greyhound]

Joyflights and Eternity ,you are on the list so be patient. As I said on another post some time back the trainee thing was overdone-too many too quick etc. Some sat around for months waiting for training slots some missed out but at least those inside were being paid! Also mentioned on another post is the ongoing problem of suitable people to take commands[by suitable I mean hours in the book and an ATPL]SO essentially future direct entry people with an atpl and sufficient hours will obtain commands when they come around before many of the trainees[even though some of them think they should be the capt now with 300hrs ha,ha] IN the main they are good kids full of youthfull enthusiasm and eager to learn. Remember the cadets have been around for a long time but the trainee thing is a new process and a learning curve for both old and new. SOME bits have been handled well and some not so well--to state the obvious.We have seen the managing upwards concept taken to new heights ,no pun intended, but hope fully this stuff will be addressed in training. So the bottom line for you is keep your job and update the resume regularly. I am told the icus programe is still to be approved. Safe flying. GG.

[harrowing]

gg
I concur.

[Fonz121]

Is there any point putting anymore trainees through while there are now people with DE requirements waiting for a reply? Probably being biased because I am one of them but it was my understanding that the traineeship was more of a temporary fix for the climate 6 months ago.

[A31J]

length of validity

would anyone like to speculate on the length of time a candidates psych and skills/recruitment process data and details hold valid?

assuming a '...you're on active hold..' letter, how long, in the event nothing continues to be offered from QLink resource management, does the original 'nod' continue to be valid?

some would say 12 months only, others, 2 years perhaps..

if nothing were to have been forthcoming at this point, what would happen?

i know of those who've had to go through the entire process again after initially (successfully) jumping through all of the hoops, but then not having been offered a start. this was after a 3 year 'gap'

[KRUSTY 34]

Mate, I know this sounds terribly negative, but why should these characters (management) start behaveing responsibly now? They over reacted to the shortage by recruiting every low time wannabe in the country, rather than attempt to retain the people they could least afford to lose. Then, when they were flush with pilots (many of whom cannot hold a command) they simply cast the remainder to the wind without so much as a proper explanation or the curtesy of a professional follow up!

It's this sort of behaviour that has in part led the profession to where it is today. Get used to it, because these are the D!ckheads that you may be working for one day.

[Hugh Jarse]

would anyone like to speculate on the length of time a candidates psych and skills/recruitment process data and details hold valid?

2 Years...........

[A31J]

thanks Hugh..I thought you might know this one

[Glass]

A mate of mine on active hold got the email today...

Traineeship is over for 2009, all applicants invited to reapply with direct entry requirements. Thanks for your time, QL.