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I suppose all those that applied got the email today about the changes to the way applications are being processed.. What did they used to do before now?
As in were invitations sent out purely on date of application if you met the minimums rather than most competitive to least competitive?
As in were invitations sent out purely on date of application if you met the minimums rather than most competitive to least competitive?
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App Update
Hey guys,
In regards to the email Chris Torta sent out today about updating your application, I'm assuming that one of the questions refers to 2 unit mathematics, not general maths, as per qantas requirements?
Sucks if you've passed english, loving the yes/no answer!
Can anyone put me in my place?
Cheers,
B
In regards to the email Chris Torta sent out today about updating your application, I'm assuming that one of the questions refers to 2 unit mathematics, not general maths, as per qantas requirements?
Sucks if you've passed english, loving the yes/no answer!
Can anyone put me in my place?
Cheers,
B
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Thanks for that PA! 
That's good to know! by the way, I just got an email from QLink saying that they want people to update their apps by this Thursday if u haven't been called for testing yet. Hope it won't take too much longer...
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That's good to know! by the way, I just got an email from QLink saying that they want people to update their apps by this Thursday if u haven't been called for testing yet. Hope it won't take too much longer...MotionPotion
It will be interesting to see what they classify as competitive. It may help to paint a more real picture of this 'pilot shortage' we're in. It would be interesting to see the data on the range of qualifications and experience being submitted to them in these applications.
I'll post here if I get the yay or nay.
I'll post here if I get the yay or nay.
It would be interesting to see the data on the range of qualifications and experience being submitted to them in these applications.
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Again, referring to the roadshow talk....Chris said there were over 900 applications at the start of the year. They were expecting a lot of PPL's that didn't meet the specs but were surprised to find nearly all apps had the basic requirements. Since then, they have slowly been working down the hours chain. A month or so ago they were looking at 700 TT hour pilots. In the same breath he also said that a pilot is on the trainee course with 10000 hours and one other with the bare min 
Personally, I think the whole thing has probably got to big, hence the latest email and app updates...maybe an attempt to re sequence the apps and start the sorting process again.
Cheers, PA
Personally, I think the whole thing has probably got to big, hence the latest email and app updates...maybe an attempt to re sequence the apps and start the sorting process again. Cheers, PA
I've got about 1400 hours Total Time, 120 Multi with MECIR (not current), and all ATPLs. So I guess we wait and see what happens after Thursday.
Good luck to both of us eh?
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There is no point guessing how they pick out people but it seems it's not as simple as most TT MECIR and ATPLs win (highest flying credentials). If someone got in with bare minimums I wonder how they got picked out? I have a bare CPL and expect to get an email with bad news soon. Will have to wait and see though.
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Dont speak too soon mate. I just finished course three down in Melbourne and start the Dash ground school on Monday. There were two bare CPL holders in that course, of which they needed to do additional flying to bring their total command time to 100 hours. It is possible. Just put your head down and work hard mate.
Good luck.
Dont speak too soon mate. I just finished course three down in Melbourne and start the Dash ground school on Monday. There were two bare CPL holders in that course, of which they needed to do additional flying to bring their total command time to 100 hours. It is possible. Just put your head down and work hard mate.
Good luck.
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Anyone done the training course in Melbourne?
Hi Everyone....just two quick questions. For people who have done the training course in Melbourne.
1. Could you provide a quick run down on what happens on a day to day, and also what tests are the trainees expected to sit and pass.
2. Do you know of any trainees who did the course but were not offered a job at the end and the circumstances why.
Thanks for that guys.
1. Could you provide a quick run down on what happens on a day to day, and also what tests are the trainees expected to sit and pass.
2. Do you know of any trainees who did the course but were not offered a job at the end and the circumstances why.
Thanks for that guys.
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Hopefully someone can help me, I have applied for qantaslink, and the email I got back from recruitment was thus:
"Thank you for your application for the position of Trainee First Officer with our organization.
Please check that you have completed all the required information relating to your Work History, Education, and References.
Please check that you have completed all the required information by reviewing all links located under 'My Details' and ensuring that you have no outstanding tasks requiring completion.
Thank you again for your interest in employment with us."
I went back over my details in the application and found everything filled out ok, with no blank areas etc.
Am I missing something on my application?, or is this a generic email from them?
Cheers
BF
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1. The first 2 weeks is pretty much self study time on IREX theory, get up to date on it because you have an exam the first week. The 2nd week you will be introduced to MCC training material, you will study this for your sim sessions and there is also a exam at the end of the 2nd week.
2. As far as I know, everyone has graduated and successfully completed the training. I do not think QLink would go through all this with much expense to want to let you go. Then again, if you dont put the hard work in your digging your own grave.
Like Mr Cat said, put your head down and work damn bloody hard. Reap the benefits of this great opportunity.
1. The first 2 weeks is pretty much self study time on IREX theory, get up to date on it because you have an exam the first week. The 2nd week you will be introduced to MCC training material, you will study this for your sim sessions and there is also a exam at the end of the 2nd week.
2. As far as I know, everyone has graduated and successfully completed the training. I do not think QLink would go through all this with much expense to want to let you go. Then again, if you dont put the hard work in your digging your own grave.
Like Mr Cat said, put your head down and work damn bloody hard. Reap the benefits of this great opportunity.
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"Check out the July / August edition of Australian Flying.
It sums up the traineeship perfectly !"
The read is very positive and so is the feedback from the interviews with 2 of the students.
Few quotes from the mag that caught my eye.
"Qlink kicks a goal, new trainee progam brigdes the gap"
"To be honest, if Qlnk didn't take this initiative, we'd be competing with every low cost Asian carrier that's about to hit Australia and take all our youn commercial Pilots - they've just got no-one to fly their aeroplanes."
It sums up the traineeship perfectly !"
The read is very positive and so is the feedback from the interviews with 2 of the students.
Few quotes from the mag that caught my eye.
"Qlink kicks a goal, new trainee progam brigdes the gap"
"To be honest, if Qlnk didn't take this initiative, we'd be competing with every low cost Asian carrier that's about to hit Australia and take all our youn commercial Pilots - they've just got no-one to fly their aeroplanes."
"Qlink kicks a goal, new trainee progam brigdes the gap"
Unfortunately Rawrawhammer it does nothing of the sort. few of these trainees will be ready for command any time soon, and most will not be ready for years! While the article may all seem positive, it is more likely the product of substandard journalism. I think you will find that all the hype is a result of the spin fed to them by QFlink P.R.
The real game lies with the retention of experienced Captains. Without them and the few remaining upgradeble F/O's, even the most professionally run traineeship will fail to achieve a positive outcome.
Unfortunately Rawrawhammer it does nothing of the sort. few of these trainees will be ready for command any time soon, and most will not be ready for years! While the article may all seem positive, it is more likely the product of substandard journalism. I think you will find that all the hype is a result of the spin fed to them by QFlink P.R.
The real game lies with the retention of experienced Captains. Without them and the few remaining upgradeble F/O's, even the most professionally run traineeship will fail to achieve a positive outcome.
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Journalism or not, the AF mag has always taken the Pilots side when it comes to the employer.Renumaration issues aside, feedback from the students themselves was good so far which is most credible and the program seems like a great opportunity not only for the young guns but for the older cats too.I totally concur with what you said in regards to captain retention, no expirience in the cockpit..command upgrade but this may just have bought Qlink enough time to fill the gap for a while without raising the pay and maybe enough time for the "Pilot shortage" to calm down back to the GOOD OL' DAYS!
and then I'm sure we all know there will be no such thing as Pilot retention issues anymore.It will be one of those magic times we can look back on unless ofcoarse someone digs a hole and finds some oil on ayers rock!
Journalism or not, the AF mag has always taken the Pilots side when it comes to the employer.Renumaration issues aside, feedback from the students themselves was good so far which is most credible and the program seems like a great opportunity not only for the young guns but for the older cats too.I totally concur with what you said in regards to captain retention, no expirience in the cockpit..command upgrade but this may just have bought Qlink enough time to fill the gap for a while without raising the pay and maybe enough time for the "Pilot shortage" to calm down back to the GOOD OL' DAYS!
and then I'm sure we all know there will be no such thing as Pilot retention issues anymore.It will be one of those magic times we can look back on unless ofcoarse someone digs a hole and finds some oil on ayers rock!
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Hi guys,
I got this as part iff an email from Qlink
2. If your MECIR was completed in New Zealand (even if it has
subsequently been converted to an Australian MECIR), that you successfully complete the Australian IREX.
From what I have read I was under the understanding that we would do the IREX as part off the first two weeks at the training course. Prehaps they are now trying to redure the time frame off the training course?
Secondly in order to self study this from home would Bob Taits book be enough as well as the Airservices documents? Prehaps someone could enlighten me to confirm that the IREX is just a writen exam and does not include having to do the intial MEIR flight test!
Thanks
I got this as part iff an email from Qlink
2. If your MECIR was completed in New Zealand (even if it has
subsequently been converted to an Australian MECIR), that you successfully complete the Australian IREX.
From what I have read I was under the understanding that we would do the IREX as part off the first two weeks at the training course. Prehaps they are now trying to redure the time frame off the training course?
Secondly in order to self study this from home would Bob Taits book be enough as well as the Airservices documents? Prehaps someone could enlighten me to confirm that the IREX is just a writen exam and does not include having to do the intial MEIR flight test!
Thanks
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21. If I am selected for the Trainee Program and I do not have a MECIR - will I require a pass in IREX prior to commencing the Trainee Program, if selected?
Yes - You must have achieved a pass in IREX prior to commencing the program. However you can still progress through the Trainee selection process prior to having a MECIR as MECIR will be completed as part of the program.
Confirmed, IREX is "just" the written test.
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Mr T,
The Aus IREX is a three and a half hour written examination of approx 40 questions requiring a 70% pass.
The Bob Tait book is great but you will need to have a close look at the AIP ENR 1.5 (know it back to front) as well as the CAOs 20 - 92.
(as much as I hate
ASL, their website lists all of the other ref documentation required for the exam).
Best of luck
Lockers
The Aus IREX is a three and a half hour written examination of approx 40 questions requiring a 70% pass.
The Bob Tait book is great but you will need to have a close look at the AIP ENR 1.5 (know it back to front) as well as the CAOs 20 - 92.
(as much as I hate
ASL, their website lists all of the other ref documentation required for the exam).Best of luck
Lockers