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If they are calling your references it is generally a good sign. They wouldn't waste their time if they know they don't want you. But calling references can mean anything from, they have a feeling about you and want a reference to back up that feeling before cutting you, all the way up to they love you and references are just a formality.
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I did the 4 tests last week. 2 psychometric on the Thursday ( personality & motivational questionnaires ) appx 200 questions. Then on Friday I completed the verbal reasoning 30 questions in 19 mins, and numerical reasoning 19 questions in 25 mins.
I completed the verbal in time but I only got to question 16 in numerical.
I received an email within 24 hrs with n invitation for the sim flight and interview in April! So see how it goes!
I used Assesment day practice exams for the aptitude and studied them for 2 weeks prior to completing the actual QLink tests.
Thnkyou for those guys that go back to me for guidance on the tests, I really appreciate it
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I completed the verbal in time but I only got to question 16 in numerical.
I received an email within 24 hrs with n invitation for the sim flight and interview in April! So see how it goes!
I used Assesment day practice exams for the aptitude and studied them for 2 weeks prior to completing the actual QLink tests.
Thnkyou for those guys that go back to me for guidance on the tests, I really appreciate it
Regards
BT
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How difficult is the initial training and endorsement on the Dash 8?
Do many people have difficulty?
Once checked to line, do many pilots have difficulty with cyclic checks?
I've been reading the EBA and there are detailed processes for failing a check.
Do many people have difficulty?
Once checked to line, do many pilots have difficulty with cyclic checks?
I've been reading the EBA and there are detailed processes for failing a check.
Once you are in the company they go out of their way to help you pass the endorsement and training. The system in the EBA is followed, however you can expect additional training if you need it. Obviously at a point they have to cut their losses and let you go, however it is rare as it is expensive for the company. The initial training system is designed to pass you, there is no money in failing you.
A cyclic is inversely as difficult as the preparation you put into it. If you study and think about what's going to happen BEFORE you go in then you are not likely to have an issue, if you don't study then expect a difficult ride.
Once checked to line, do many pilots have difficulty with cyclic checks?
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I think it has been done to death previously in this long thread, but it appears that the pilots being accepted into the traineeship (add the $18K for a 6 week course) seem to have, (on average), hours that exceed the direct entry FO requirements. Feedback seems to suggest that successful trainees usually have over 1000 hours. Direct entry FOs, although only required to have min 700 hours, naturally have higher hours, perhaps 1200-3000.
I presume this is a simply labour ecomonics - a supply and demand scenario.
It is apparent that, once accepted, trainees might continue to accrue hours until a requirement arises and a course is available. The holding pool for trainees, after completion of the 6 week course, appears to be still be competitive when waiting for a vacancy opportunity. So it appears that one could do the course and still be waiting with others with more hours jump ahead.
Not complaining, as I'm sure QL just want the best available recruits, but it is hard to balance one's expectations when contemplating spending $$$.
Are there any examples of trainees getting to line training with less than 700 hours?
I presume this is a simply labour ecomonics - a supply and demand scenario.
It is apparent that, once accepted, trainees might continue to accrue hours until a requirement arises and a course is available. The holding pool for trainees, after completion of the 6 week course, appears to be still be competitive when waiting for a vacancy opportunity. So it appears that one could do the course and still be waiting with others with more hours jump ahead.
Not complaining, as I'm sure QL just want the best available recruits, but it is hard to balance one's expectations when contemplating spending $$$.
Are there any examples of trainees getting to line training with less than 700 hours?
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Can't be long surely, we need more FO's badly!!
That and there seems to be a slow build up to a mass exodus sometime in the near future
Initial training is not hard, but it certainly is harder than when I started here... they are more anal about stuff now. Cyclics really come down to who the checkie is, and if you are worried about that I strongly suggest you park yourself on the classic fleet
That and there seems to be a slow build up to a mass exodus sometime in the near future
Initial training is not hard, but it certainly is harder than when I started here... they are more anal about stuff now. Cyclics really come down to who the checkie is, and if you are worried about that I strongly suggest you park yourself on the classic fleet
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Yes Alliance and Virgin... a few have already left and many more will soon... doesn't look like the company is taking it too seriously either but what would I know 
Quick commands here in QLD, I seriously doubt anyone will have to wait more than 2 years if you enter with more than 2000hrs!
Quick commands here in QLD, I seriously doubt anyone will have to wait more than 2 years if you enter with more than 2000hrs!
Qantaslink contractual arrangements
G'Day All,
Sorry for my ignorance, I am trying to get my head around the contractual arrangements for Qantaslink pilots. I understand that several regional carriers were re-branded around 2002 so that Eastern, Southern and Sunstate became Qantaslink. Also understand that Cobham operate 717s on behalf of Qantaslink (wet lease or some other arrangement?).
Since the re-branding, have the pilot contracts for the aircraft that are similar been made aircraft specific across Qantaslink, or does QF try to drive a wedge between the pilots by still having separate contracts so that you have to 'bid' for Dash 8 or Q400 flying against each other?
This is not a wind up or a bait to stir up trouble, just trying to get some info for a non-flying assignment.
Thanks in advance for any info that might help.
Sorry for my ignorance, I am trying to get my head around the contractual arrangements for Qantaslink pilots. I understand that several regional carriers were re-branded around 2002 so that Eastern, Southern and Sunstate became Qantaslink. Also understand that Cobham operate 717s on behalf of Qantaslink (wet lease or some other arrangement?).
Since the re-branding, have the pilot contracts for the aircraft that are similar been made aircraft specific across Qantaslink, or does QF try to drive a wedge between the pilots by still having separate contracts so that you have to 'bid' for Dash 8 or Q400 flying against each other?
This is not a wind up or a bait to stir up trouble, just trying to get some info for a non-flying assignment.
Thanks in advance for any info that might help.
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The pilots who currently operate the DASH 8's (200, 300, 400) are employed by either Sunstate Airlines or Eastern Australian Airlines, each airline has its own seniority list and EBA. The Q400 is on the Sunstate AOC. The Sunstate bases are Cairns and Brisbane, the Eastern bases are Sydney, Melbourne, Mildura and Perth. Both Eastern and Sunstate pilots operate all types.
Sunstate and Eastern are 2 different companies both with separate EBAs. If you want to work in QLD you are on the Sunstate EBA. For WA, NSW and VIC you are on the Eastern EBA. Both EBAs have all types covered at a similar pay level (Within a few hundred $ of each other). In recent years the two groups have come closer in terms and conditions rather than apart. However there are still a few small differences.
Previously Sunstate was the only company to have Q400s on its EBA and as such they opened a Canberra base on the Sunstate EBA to fly Q400s between Canberra and Sydney. A short while later Eastern had the Q400 put on their EBA, this made the Canberra base redundant and it was closed with the flying done out of Sydney by Eastern Crew.
From a pilot perspective the only real issue with having the two separate companies is that if you want to transfer to the other one you loose all your seniority as they each have their own seniority lists.
Previously Sunstate was the only company to have Q400s on its EBA and as such they opened a Canberra base on the Sunstate EBA to fly Q400s between Canberra and Sydney. A short while later Eastern had the Q400 put on their EBA, this made the Canberra base redundant and it was closed with the flying done out of Sydney by Eastern Crew.
From a pilot perspective the only real issue with having the two separate companies is that if you want to transfer to the other one you loose all your seniority as they each have their own seniority lists.
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G'day Ryan,
I did my psychometric testing a few weeks ago now. I did it on a Friday morning online and I got an email next day (Saturday!) for progression to stage 3.
I did my psychometric testing a few weeks ago now. I did it on a Friday morning online and I got an email next day (Saturday!) for progression to stage 3.
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I had the same experience. Less than 24 hours from the online testing to the offer of stafe 3.
From stage 3 to the "offer" (entry into active hold) was a few weeks. Haven't heard anything since regarding a start.
From stage 3 to the "offer" (entry into active hold) was a few weeks. Haven't heard anything since regarding a start.