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Old 10th Dec 2007, 15:39
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I'm trying to get into either one of the Qantas Swinburne cadet programs but haven't heard anything regarding stage two. Haven't seen anything on various forums either, just wondering if anyone has gone for stage 2 or beyond. Its getting a little late and I'm a bit worried!
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Old 10th Dec 2007, 19:25
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I had stage 2/3 mid november, not heard back yet, they said 2 weeks regardless, so guessing no from there. Got there, skills test broken sorry, go on and do the psych after flying in from melb.... but yea if you hve not gotten past 1st stage then i think it is to late check the timetable online, i think the 2nd and 3rd rounds have finished already.
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havent checked the timetable or anything, but from experience, when qf recruiting say 2 weeks, it really means 'we might call you in two weeks but it could be anything from 2 weeks to 6 weeks, so just keep sitting on the edge of your seat'. If they havent called and its not past the deadlines or anything, then you're still in with a shot.
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I'm applying for the commercial program and I had my Stage 2 testing last week. I was told that I'd hear back from Qantas within a week or so, but I think the 'or so' might be operative! I also had the same experience as tcross in relation to the Skills Test.

Qf86, I think it might be worth calling them/emailing them about your application. Even if you submitted it at the 11th hour, it's been a long time. I also think - and this is only a hunch - that they'd be keen to get the Level 1 cadets organised first... because of the administrative requirements associated with doing a uni degree.
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Just got the invite for stage 2, all the dates are for next week or so, so I have to get organized! I'm from out of town so can anyone suggest some cheap options for accommodation?
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There is a formula 1 hotel within walking distance of QCC and the Jet base. It'll be your cheapest option but it is an 'interesting' place to stay.

A slightly more expensive option would be the Ibis. A bit more of a walk from the terminal but closer to QCC. About equi-distant to the Jetbase as the Formula 1. If you can afford the extra $50 or so, go the Ibis.

Good luck with the process.
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I stayed at the Holiday Inn which is across the road from Building C. It was one of the more expensive options but they offered a buffet breakfast which was pretty enticing.

Unfortunately I've got stuck into the buffet coffee only to be told that the Skills Test wasn't working
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cudza hi ... approx when did you send your application off? ..... can i also ask what is the time elapsed b/w skills test and (if sucessful) invite to interview? ... seems like they are nazis with the skills test ie. giving you zero time to get organised .... don't know whether i am adding to the forum but i am a commerical cadet applicant, and have not heard from them (application lodged end of november), but i am presumably at the pointier end of their age range (31 yo) ... hence not getting any hopes up, but have to be in it to win it
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I sent my application in on about September 27... from memory. September 30 was the original cut-off date for applications. I received an invite to the psychometic testing in mid-November and I did the testing about two weeks later. Early this month I received an invite to an interview in early January.

All this aside, the fact that you lodged your application in November suggests that you're actually going for the Winter Program - I applied for the Autumn program. This might be pertinent!
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No problem with responsiveness

I too applied for the Autumn intake, and although the invitation to stage 2 went past that outlined on their schedule, they mentioned that they've had a record amount of applications.

Sat the Psychometrics (Skills Broken) early December. They said they'd get back to me within 3 weeks, but got back to me in 4 days with an Interview Invite. Unfortunately I've had 20 flight cancellations for my NVFR, and have missed the cut-off, but I've been graciously bumped to the Winter Intake.

21391401, I'm 33 next month.
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cudza ... thx for the reply, my mistake, you are correct, i am a winter applicant

nadsy ... thx also, good to hear the oldies are getting a look in ... bad luck on the nvfr .... my problem is that i finsihed cpl about 6 months ago, and am not yet working in the industry, hence they are likely to question my committment

even if they show any interest, i am scared to death of the skills (handeye) assessment
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Old 19th Dec 2007, 22:32
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Just wondering if anyone that had Stage Two Assessments in December for the Swinburne Course been called for a interview yet? Or anyone received a rejection letter?

I have noticed that the schedule to have Stage Two seems to be going till the 21st December but I was told that the results would be given within the next five days or so... Typical Qantas?? No news is good news??

Any other info that anyone has would be good.
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airjordan,

From memory, I only finished the verbal reasoning section within the time allocated. On the other three I was somewhere between 80 and 90% finished when the time expired.

I was pretty shocked at how time-critical the testing was and I daren't say that I failed to pick this up when doing the practice booklet! I did some other practice prior to doing the tests - numerous books have been mentioned on these forums in the past - but it is difficult to find tests that are in the same format as those used by Qantas.
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I haven't thought of the NVFR requirement as a way of culling applicants but it does make it more difficult to meet the requirements in time.

I did the rating earlier this year and I would have to say that it is of limited use. I had a good run of clear days and, from memory got it done within six weeks or so. If instructor availability, aircraft availability and weather all go against you it could take a decade!
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Hi Guys,

Just wondering if there are any of you out there who have applied for QC2's (Commercial program I think it is called now) with a MECIR already?

I think I heard a while ago that they were now opening it up to applicants who already have this, but just wondering if there is anyone that did apply with it and got through. Also if they are going to make you pay for it again?

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Old 20th Dec 2007, 03:43
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Yep MECIR all over again

Hi Puma

Yes I have my MECIR and have applied. They are no longer restricting applicants if they have a MECIR. However!!!!......you will still have to pay the fixed 40 odd thousand which covers ATPL's and MECIR along with multi crew resourcing etc. So essentially you're doing the MECIR and ATPL's according to 'Qantas' standard. This may not be a bad thing as I guess they want consistency across their employees.
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hey guys im in same situation as some you guys, i had my pyhc testing for the Commercial Autumn course at start of this month (skills testing pc was broken) still havn't heard back from them. Problem is i havn't got my NVFR I have done all training but can't get my flight test in, even worse testing officer is gonig on holiday now for 3 weeks and my old flight school wont be able to get me in until january some time....ARGH what do you reckon qantas will do with me?
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you will still have to pay the fixed 40 odd thousand which covers ATPL's and MECIR along with multi crew resourcing
Is anyone able to shed any light one how this figure is calculated? How much for each separate part of the training? Most places do instrument ratings for c. 15k or less, ATPL's shouldn't be much more than a few grand and as I understand it multi crew is mainly all sim time, which I can't see generating the further 20 odd thousand in costs. So are their prices really a little steep or are my figures way off base?
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hey man ye thanks for your reply, its been just over two weeks now so figners crossed hear from them, if they do roll me over to the next course i will have to figure out what to do with myself as now will have lots of time before it starts...
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airjordan: I finished the Verbal well within time. I had sat the psychs in 2005, and remember doing v.badly in the numerical then... not because I found it hard, but because I didn't realise how time critical it was. This time I got through about 80% of the q's. Spatial and diagramatic, proabably about 75% (got 1 of each on the two different sittings. Being an 'oldie', and not having my head in math from day to day, I took 4 days of work to hammer myself with numerical q's. Although you have to have an inate apptitude, practise can improve your speed. You can also learn techniques for the spatial. I thin kdiagramatic is again innate.

21391401: I got my CPL in Sept 2006, and have done 20 hours since (more cirumstances than choice). Work gives me the opportunity to fly, but also gets in the way sometimes. Commitment is something I expect they are going to question in the interview.
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