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Three killed in NT highway plane crash

Old 10th Nov 2007, 05:01
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Three killed in NT highway plane crash

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=321591

Three German nationals have been killed in a light plane crash on to the Stuart Highway, north of Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory.
Police believe the pilot was trying to making an emergency landing on the highway when it crashed.
The charter plane was one of three planes in a group en route from Western Australia when it crashed about 20km north of Elliott just before 11am (CST).
The planes were travelling from Katherine to Kings Creek Station when the crash happened completely blocking the Stuart Highway....

Anyone know any further details about the pilot and charter company?
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 05:29
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I'm just guessing here, but it soudns like one of those Goanna Air Tours (where people from overseas hire 172's and there's about anywhere from 3 - 10 planes flying in company with the lead plane being an Aussie guy that has organised most things in advance) flying around the bush
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 05:54
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Definately not Goanna!!!
They stopped business some time back. Killed off by the ASIC debacle.
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 06:10
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Ah, fair enough. Been a while since I have flown up that way.
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 10:05
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No winners here.

Terrible stuff. It sounds like it may well be the same mob who made the wrong entry to Kununurra (joined Left Base on RWY 30 from the South, RWY 30 is R hand <due rotary traffic> and joining Base at a busy CTAF<R> is generally a bad idea) a few days ago and got into an argument with a local pilot about it. I'm certainly not trying to pass judgement or sling mud but I wonder whether this was really a CHTR flight or if the press got it wrong. And how do they get that it's from WA? Perhaps the aeroplane is registered here. Dunno, will wait to hear from the ATSB. At any rate it's always especially sad when this sort of thing happens so far from home.
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 11:21
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An educated guess would be that they have come here on holidays hired the aircraft from someone. Australia is a great place to go VFR flying compared to Europe!!

Damn unlucky to actually crash on the highway, it's really just a long runway.
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 11:35
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Bad luck

From what the witness said they may have hit a powerline / telephone line. V bad luck out this way.
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 11:48
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ABC news has a video of the scene (scroll down to "latest video and audio") .. I guess they just never made it to that "one long runway".

Practically no powerlines or poles out there to hit .. but roadside signs pose a hazard, as at least one RFDS pilot found to his great concern - when he tried a shortcut by using the Eyre Hwy (quite a number of years ago), instead of the runway ..

I seem to recall he shortened a wingtip on a road sign .. and got grounded for 6 months for his less-than-attentive piloting skills ..

Had a friend/work colleague who landed his Cherokee on the Coolgardie-Kalgoorlie Rd quite a number of years ago, when a tank crossover valve failed .. and he was going quite well until a wing hooked a big road sign .. and it took the wing off ..

I can see at least two large road signs in that ABC news vid, and I would rate them as a possible likely factor in the crash.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/
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Word is it was WLQ out of Jandakot on private hire

RIP
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 13:08
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Looks Like WLQ. Air Australia Aircraft.
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Unhappy Goana a Very Professional Organisation

Having had quite a bit to do with GOANA Air Safari's (I never had the privilege of going on one), I did observe their whole operation to be highly professional.

They would pick up their passengers in a bus, take them to their 5 star accomodation in the city of Brisbane, check flight and briefing the following day. Their briefing room resembled an Air Force Officer's Mess. (I was an Air Force Officer) and then all the well maintained, immaculately presented Cessna 172's would take off, for their first overnight destination.

This was a typical well run Australian enterprise, which brought many wealthy overseas visitors to our country, all spending big bucks.

The aircraft were meticulously maintained, cleaned and polished to the extent that they looked like they were just "out of the factory".

As well as being a Pilot, the tour director for each group was a LAME, and many of the participants became "regulars", returning often to their favourite part of the world, the land downunder.

But the bureaucracy made things difficult at every turn, until under the "security threat to our nation", it was decided that a person couldn't hold an Australian Pilot Licence, for such an excursion, unless they had been known personally for 12 months by an Australian of bona fide credentials. Obviously, a Passport is insufficient identification to prove who a person is.

Anyone can see, that a terrorist, let loose near Ayr's Rock (sorry Ularu), with a Cessna 172, and full fuel, could destroy the nation.

State Governments and Councils too all had their input, to make things difficult. The Northern Territory bureaucrats refused to register one of the Goana vehicles, left at one of the airports they visited, as the owner wasn't a permanent resident in the NT, and the battle went on and on with common sense going ot the window at every turn.

There is a saying, that when there is a flourishing activity, and a government steps in to regulate it, then that activity will eventually cease.

So the staff lost their jobs, aircraft and equipment sold off, and places like Africa now collect the $$$'s that enterprises like GOANA brought into Australia.

But of course, any country that can pay its Telco CEO's $22 million p.a. doesn't need little enterprises like GOANA ...

R.I.P Goana, you are sadly missed.
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 22:07
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Well put Curlyw, you could probably put that in the 'ASIC card renewals' thread as well.
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 22:28
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Interesting sometimes to think.........

I've often been over the same areas, in the same aircraft types, where people have gone down.. Crashed... Ended in fatalities etc...

But when you're up there, with the engine humming away... You quite often get misled into believing you're invincible. 'What could go wrong, everything seems right'....

Something like this should remind us all that it CAN happen to us...

Know your stuff, know you're aircraft.... and when you're flying along, always quiz yourself.... "What would I do now if [this] happened". Always have a little escape plan
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 23:18
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GOANA Air Safari's

Me again, CurlyW. GOANA flew over 40,000 hours during its term of operation, and no person received a scratch in all that flying time.

A good effort ... Well Done.
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ASIC Card Renewals

Hi thank you for your kind words ... ASIC card renewals have to be renewed every two years, at $182 per renewal ... another Government Rip Off.

Some of the things they want confirmed are, amongst other things, your date of birth - isn't that unbelievable.

So, next time my renewal comes up, I thought I'd put in the 10th November 2007, with a note saying that to pay their exhorbitant costs, you can see that I was born yesterday.

Cheers to all ...
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 23:42
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GOANA was an acronym for Go On A Nice Adventure. Used to see them a fair bit years ago.

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Old 11th Nov 2007, 03:22
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was scary playing dodge the 172 when they arrived en-mass at Ayers Rock..
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Old 11th Nov 2007, 07:47
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The idea of GOANA is neat and it's a pity they aren't still operating. However the only time I saw them in action they appeared to have neglected doing sufficient homework. Inbound to Broome, first aircraft called at 15nm instead of 30nm and subsequent aircraft pilots were out of their depth. Their prior scenic flying around the horizontal waterfalls had resulted in them becoming strung out so each pilot as effectively on their own.
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Old 11th Nov 2007, 08:44
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All my airborne encounters with Goanna were pleasent.
One day I encountered a long line of Goanna aircraft at the fuel bowser and they let me jump queue - now thats consideration.
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GOANA were a sad victim of government stupidity.

I arrived from the south into Gladstone as they were coming in from the north, the first one reported 10NM just before me.......so the plane was to drag em off and beat them in which I did with ease.....and refuelling as they all arrived one after another.

Great site actually, so long as you got to the fuel pump firts

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