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Old 23rd Dec 2007, 07:21
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loveflying737, if those two blokes are as good at their jobs as you are at creating positive (some might call it syphocantic) spin, they must be very, VERY good indeed, and VOz are very, very lucky to have them. (ďAs many as are prepared to make the sacrifices necessary to emmigrate.Ē From SA to Oz? Joíburg to Sydney? Give me a break!) If youíre a Safa, in writing such Ďsuck upí posts, youíve badly misunderstood the Oz psyche, Iím afraid. If youíre an Oz, the country has changed more than I thought it had since Iíve been away.

I heard on the grapevine that there would be no staff travel provisions in the VOz contract Ė not even on VOz flights. If thatís true, and since VBlue is a separate company, Iím surmising thereíll definitely be no staff travel deal for VOz staff on VBlue, which would make commuting a bit expensive and take the shine off an already uninspiring salary package. Still, three or four full fare return flights a month between Brisbane and Sydney would probably still work out considerably cheaper than packing up and buying a house in Sydney.

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Old 23rd Dec 2007, 09:56
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I heard on the grapevine that there would be no staff travel provisions in the VOz contract Ė not even on VOz flights. If thatís true, and since VBlue is a separate company, Iím surmising thereíll definitely be no staff travel deal for VOz staff on VBlue, which would make commuting a bit expensive and take the shine off an already uninspiring salary package. Still, three or four full fare return flights a month between Brisbane and Sydney would probably still work out considerably cheaper than packing up and buying a house in Sydney.
Not sure about the Tech Crew, but Cabin Crew have been told that as V Oz is part of the Virgin Blue Group of Airlines, service continuity and Leave will all transfer across - so I daresay, at least for those transferring directly from VB, staff travel will be the same - and will most likely end up including V Oz as well.
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Old 23rd Dec 2007, 10:21
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Let's hope what you've heard is right, sinala1, or that what applies to the cabin crew will apply to the pilots as well.
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Old 23rd Dec 2007, 10:35
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MTOW as far as the service continuity and leave transfer is concerned, we have that in writing - so thats a good start at least...
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Old 24th Dec 2007, 01:00
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Nope for techcrewthe leave neededto be acquited!?
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Old 26th Dec 2007, 23:50
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Some Guys are sugesting the VOZ pay is not too different to QF and others. If you look at the Captains pay, where most would like to eventualy progress, things get alot different. On the QF 744 Captains are making in the very high 300K, Check and Training are over 400k. It would be intesting to know what their 330 drivers are grossing.

It would be reasonable to give some facts and not just post wishfull propaganda.
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Old 27th Dec 2007, 00:25
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On the QF 744 Captains are making in the very high 300K,
Wrong, I didn't even get to "very high 200K" on my last Group Certificate. Your figures are what Scrotum Face releases to the media and don't reflect reality.

It would be reasonable to give some facts and not just post wishfull propaganda.
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Old 27th Dec 2007, 00:41
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If you look at the E-Jet vs B737NG vs B777 salary ratio comparison then the base for a B777 should be a minimum of $210k. You would need to then add super, allowances etc etc. I accept that the B777 is a separate company and hence can in reality offer what ever salary is required to fill the seats.

Jan/Feb interviews should cough up some realistic and accurate figures. Until then it is all mere speculation.
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Old 27th Dec 2007, 00:51
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Thanks Going Boeing, I stand corrected. I can only comment on the figures passed on to me. The QF 744 Captains pay seems to be between @260K up to @400K for a Senior Check Captain all inclusive. I was unaware of the large difference in gross pay for pilots on the same fleet in QF.

PS: That puts GD a little under @30 times the average 744 Capts gross.
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Old 27th Dec 2007, 03:32
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Anybody invited to interview yet?,if they are planning for end jan/early feb interviews then they will need to let people know fairly soon!
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Old 27th Dec 2007, 04:11
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Calls mid to late Jan I was told.
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Old 27th Dec 2007, 20:20
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I was told calls early Jan for interviews late Jan.
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Old 29th Dec 2007, 17:31
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I suspect there'll be quite a few pilots* out there who are hoping VOz will send any invitations for interview by email rather than hope to catch said pilots* at home, as they did with the original fishing expedition phone calls.

(* Pilots, (particularly B777 pilots), have this funny habit of being away from home for quite long periods of time WORKING - and not everyone has a living, breathing answering machine at home to field his phone calls.)
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Old 29th Dec 2007, 21:33
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So no 'Global roaming' then?
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Old 29th Dec 2007, 22:03
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You could also pass on the company sat phone address so they can call you on your the next 14 hour flight and then you can call crewing to ask for time off at short notice to attend the interview True "Global roaming"!!!
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Old 31st Dec 2007, 02:04
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Global roaming doesn't work too well with the phone (mandatorily) off when I'm flying, which is what I do for most of time when I'm away, Howard.

Like the idea of asking my present employer to forward the call from VOz on their sat. phone!!
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Old 31st Dec 2007, 10:27
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Heard the response was overwhelming , the interview preference will be 777 type rated , Sydney locals , and possibbly crew the entire fleet from outside without paying for any ratings....

pay should then be 180K
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Old 31st Dec 2007, 23:44
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Does this information apply only to Captains, or F/Os as well?
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Old 1st Jan 2008, 00:27
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From what I hear the only response that was overwhelming was "geez that is lousy pay" however I will procede until I see/hear the facts on the renumeration package. I hear most applicants wished to proceed - at this stage - awaiting some serious info on the package. Then if the current offer is true, watch the handbrake come on to a vast majority of applications, type rated in particular.
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Old 2nd Jan 2008, 09:38
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Wow scooter are you sure there are 70ish Aussie(sorry Sydney siders) F/O's, cruise F/O's.....B777 endoresed out there ready to live in Sydney on the money they are saying over the phone!?!?!!?
Some Capt maybe, but then again........!?!?!?!?!
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