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Old 25th Sep 2007, 12:21
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REX CAPT Salary

Hi All

We have heard lots about the low pays scale starting out as a F/O on the SAAB, but can anyone give us an idea of what a capt might earn plus allowances, also what a check capt might be on.

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Old 25th Sep 2007, 23:15
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Directly from the EBA, which can be found on Wagenet:

SAAB 340 CAPTAINS

Years of service Effective 24/7/07 Effective 24/7/08
1 67991 69691
2 70221 71976
3 71335 73119
4 71892 73690
5 73007 74832
6 75793 77688
7 76908 78831
8 78579 80544
9 80252 82258
10 82481 84544

This is base salary. If you are based in a port with lots of overnights (ex, SYD, 7-8 overnights a month) you can expect another 7-8K p/year in DTA.

There is also an entitlement to the profit share scheme - which for the pilot group is dependent on years served and salary ... you can expect an 18 year old flight attendant to receive more than you.

"Share gift" occurs yearly and is 2% of base salary. You cannot sell them until you resign or 3/10 years.

You can expect to work 130 duty hours p/month and 80-90 flight.

Training Captains - 10% extra -- only when they are training.
Checkie - 15% extra

Latest commands awarded to F/O's with 13 months in the Company.

Hope this helps.
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Old 26th Sep 2007, 11:39
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"Share gift" occurs yearly and is 2% of base salary
supposed to....
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Years of service Effective 24/7/07 Effective 24/7/08
1 67991 69691
2 70221 71976
3 71335 73119
4 71892 73690
5 73007 74832
6 75793 77688
7 76908 78831
8 78579 80544
9 80252 82258
10 82481 84544
Dismal. Why would one even bother?
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Old 27th Sep 2007, 02:33
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gassed budgie, unfortunately I have to agree. I think the first year capt scale, really should be the first year F/O scale. Capt should be on at least 90k to start on.
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If you are based in a port with lots of overnights (ex, SYD, 7-8 overnights a month) you can expect another 7-8K p/year in DTA.
If you are based in Sydney this will all be taken up in the extra cost of living there, so you won't notice it.
Doesn't compare very well to QANTAS baggage loaders or refuelers does it ? Even a postie is only 12K behind a 1st year captain, and after tax even less.
Anyone know how they're going getting drivers from overseas ?
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You can make more shovelling ****e for the local council...

An absolute disgrace for people with alot of expierence and responsibilty.

This bunch of Frark wits who run this company are quickly running it into the ground!!
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Old 27th Sep 2007, 12:41
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Dismal. Why would one even bother?
There will be a line a mile long of guys who will work for that as it beats working a 50hr week doing scenics in a C172 to make 18k for the year!

It beats flying around in a 30yr old PA31 for 40k a year.

And you get to live in a city, not a community.

I know its not good money in terms of other occupations, but when compared to other flying jobs (GA jobs) its good coin and hence there will always be people willing to do it to get out of their current situation. Its going to take a few years until the supply of those people dry up and then the wages will have to change.
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By then they will have the MPL. Recruting little johnny off the street wont be such a big problem....
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Unhappy Captains salaries

Speaking as an expat, sandpit based and all that....tell me, is that salary net or before tax...because if it's before tax, well bu66er me!
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Old 27th Sep 2007, 20:47
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That salary my friend, is Gross! So from that you still need to leave Johnny his share!
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You can make more shovelling ****e for the local council...
Kavorka you are an idiot. No wonder the average Joe Blow think most pilots are a bunch of stuck up so and so's. Not only is your comment grossly wrong but you imply you are superior as well.
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We are superior, simple as that. We have studied hard, passed exams and have a high degree of skill and responsibility. We are part of the professional class along with doctors, dentists, pharmacists, accountants etc.
Trouble with Australia lacking a class system is everyone thinks they are equal. If you consider yourself on the same level as roadworkers and unskilled labourers that's your choice, don't try and pull the rest of us down.
There are lots of opportunities in Australia to better yourself and advance through hard work, some of us used them and got ahead. Don't lump us in with people who are content to live all their lives on the dole in a housing commission unit.
We are not all equal, a visit to the low income area of your city will show you that.
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Fool

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If you work 50 hours a week doing scenics in a 172 for 18k a year, then you are a fool.
If you do that, do not blame anyone else for your problems.
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Metro man

Mate, thats a very good post, couldnt have said it better myself. Well done.
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Metro Man you quoted "We are part of the professional class along with doctors, dentists, pharmacists, accountants etc"

If we are considered part of the above professional group why is there so much talk about poor conditions in the industry? Such as the amount of coin Captains are paid amongst other things?

The Australian public doesn't question paying the high charges those other professions command yet they constantly want to fly around the country for a really cheap fares! Are Management being too greedy with the profits they make or is there not enough funds coming in with such low fares to pay pilots what they are worth.

Any thought anyone?
 
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We are superior, simple as that. We have studied hard, passed exams and have a high degree of skill and responsibility. We are part of the professional class along with doctors, dentists, pharmacists, accountants etc.
Trouble with Australia lacking a class system is everyone thinks they are equal. If you consider yourself on the same level as roadworkers and unskilled labourers that's your choice, don't try and pull the rest of us down.
Metro Man,

You are a glorified bus driver........
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Old 28th Sep 2007, 10:18
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Tintin,

The great unwashed dont give a stuff about qualifications, experience or whotnot; price the the basic determinant; Until the proverbilal dark, stormy night, that is! You would be amazed at how many times in Asia I have heard :"We were ****ing bricks but when we heard the Aussie voice on the PA, then we knew we were OK".

With the Cadet scheme etc; REX will have to abandon datal seniority. There is no way that they will be able to train competant Captains to stem the tide to VB, QF, Jet* and Tiger. DE Captains will be the only option.

More Power to Metro Man for an astute, susinct post.
 
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Metro man thanks for your support..

Murlow....you are the fark'n ****** mate.....

Like many others I have busted my arse over the past 10 years to get where I am today and am now getting some reward for it...

The point I was trying to make, is that someone can get a truck licence (in a week) and go and make similar money to a REX captain.....
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No Kavorka, truck drivers start out on light rigid, after time move onto, medium and heavy rigid and after a min 3 yrs can get semi and articulated licenses that allow them to earn "better money". But after all they dont let the computor drive for them 90% of the time!!!!
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