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Foreign Student.
I believe the aircraft mentioned (flown by a young female student from the sub-continent), left YSDU mid-afternoon headed for YSBK. Upon departing YSDU, I overheard Centre calling an aircraft west of Mudgee tracking south east at 7500'. There was no reply. As Richmond restricted airspace was active at the time, Centre was no doubt trying to worn the pilot, to no avail.
I was assuming that the aircraft mentioned by centre was indeed the one mentioned here today, as it was the only aircraft in the area. The registration mentioned above confirms that. So I suppose thats the answer to your question!
I was assuming that the aircraft mentioned by centre was indeed the one mentioned here today, as it was the only aircraft in the area. The registration mentioned above confirms that. So I suppose thats the answer to your question!
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Atlas, good point, do they go that high?
My guess about 25 minutes, or about a third the way to Ricmond, by the time she levelled out and cruised for a bit, on a wrong heading, it would be time to descend again..........what an awful feeling getting lost like that.
Of course its only awful if you actually realise you are lost
. Blissfully unaware she may have been. For me, I find that knowing the country side well seems to ensure you never get too far from track even without Nav Aids GPS etc, but if you planned wrong and the map kind of looked right, and you had no idea of what that region should look like.......I can see how this could happen.
Question is, did she get "escorted" down to earth? That funny feeling being lost would only compound to peeing her pants when a Hornet tries to pull alongside for a look see.
I doubt they can fly that slow, they would need to send up a CarryBoo to chase her.
Well I hope she learns from that and goes on to be a great pilot and not get so scared she quits. Many a great achiever has been almost belted out of their chosen field like that when learning. Apart from us all being nosey buggers, it would be good to hear the whole story, if just for educational purposes.
J
My guess about 25 minutes, or about a third the way to Ricmond, by the time she levelled out and cruised for a bit, on a wrong heading, it would be time to descend again..........what an awful feeling getting lost like that.
Of course its only awful if you actually realise you are lost
. Blissfully unaware she may have been. For me, I find that knowing the country side well seems to ensure you never get too far from track even without Nav Aids GPS etc, but if you planned wrong and the map kind of looked right, and you had no idea of what that region should look like.......I can see how this could happen.Question is, did she get "escorted" down to earth? That funny feeling being lost would only compound to peeing her pants when a Hornet tries to pull alongside for a look see.
I doubt they can fly that slow, they would need to send up a CarryBoo to chase her.Well I hope she learns from that and goes on to be a great pilot and not get so scared she quits. Many a great achiever has been almost belted out of their chosen field like that when learning. Apart from us all being nosey buggers, it would be good to hear the whole story, if just for educational purposes.
J
Lost is all in your head - if you knew where you were 5 minutes ago, you can't possibly be lost. You're simply 5 minutes away from where you last knew you were and it's very easily fixed.
I'm a little curious about the route. Not the most direct one and the terrain between MDG & SRI, in places, is less than friendly and perhaps not the most appropriate place to send a student in a slow 30yr old two-seat single. Not sure what the WX was like there yesterday though.
I'm a little curious about the route. Not the most direct one and the terrain between MDG & SRI, in places, is less than friendly and perhaps not the most appropriate place to send a student in a slow 30yr old two-seat single. Not sure what the WX was like there yesterday though.
I can honestly say I have NEVER been lost!
However, there have been some variable periods of time in which I have not been able to pin-point my exact position to the nearest 5 nm!
.... well, maybe 10 nm!
OK, OK - 50 nm at most!
Dr
However, there have been some variable periods of time in which I have not been able to pin-point my exact position to the nearest 5 nm!
.... well, maybe 10 nm!
OK, OK - 50 nm at most!
Dr
I think I have told this before in here, but it seems appropriate under the circumstances.
Back when I was learning to fly at Archerfield in the 70's (pre-SSR) a co-student returned from a PPL nav to relate the following events.
BN (Flightservice) - XXX, are you familiar with military restricted areas Romeo 681 Alpha and Bravo
XXX - BN, ah ah XXX, ah affirmative.
BN - XXX, be advised that live motar firing is currently taking place in Romeo 681 Alpha and Bravo. Confirm that you are clear of these restricted areas.
XXX - Ah BN, ah XXX, ah yes ah affirmative.
Unidentified voice comes over the radio.
"No your not son! Look out your left window"
Said student pilot looks out his left window - to see an Iroquios chopper formating on him.
With a "You follow me son!", he was escorted from the area. Fortunately the people on the ground had heard and seen him coming and had stopped the mortar shoot.
BN - XXX, on your return to Archerfield - please report to the briefing office!
Dr
Back when I was learning to fly at Archerfield in the 70's (pre-SSR) a co-student returned from a PPL nav to relate the following events.
BN (Flightservice) - XXX, are you familiar with military restricted areas Romeo 681 Alpha and Bravo
XXX - BN, ah ah XXX, ah affirmative.
BN - XXX, be advised that live motar firing is currently taking place in Romeo 681 Alpha and Bravo. Confirm that you are clear of these restricted areas.
XXX - Ah BN, ah XXX, ah yes ah affirmative.
Unidentified voice comes over the radio.
"No your not son! Look out your left window"
Said student pilot looks out his left window - to see an Iroquios chopper formating on him.
With a "You follow me son!", he was escorted from the area. Fortunately the people on the ground had heard and seen him coming and had stopped the mortar shoot.
BN - XXX, on your return to Archerfield - please report to the briefing office!
Dr
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Yikes!!!
I used to instruct in that machine in YMEN.
Climbing that high the aircraft would get a nose bleed!
Nice tower at Richmond though so she probably enjoyed her tea and biscuits
I used to instruct in that machine in YMEN.
Climbing that high the aircraft would get a nose bleed!
Nice tower at Richmond though so she probably enjoyed her tea and biscuits
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Hey Doc & Atlas,
now you mention it, I have never been lost either (4 yr old Westfields at Burwood.....according to my mum! )
I agree you are always somewhere relative to somewhere and a momentary unsure is quickly resolved by some careful deduction......so yes being that "Geographically Embarrassed" is quite an effort.
But we can all make mistakes. I know I have.....kind of, well a little...you know
J
now you mention it, I have never been lost either (4 yr old Westfields at Burwood.....according to my mum!
)I agree you are always somewhere relative to somewhere and a momentary unsure is quickly resolved by some careful deduction......so yes being that "Geographically Embarrassed" is quite an effort.
But we can all make mistakes. I know I have.....kind of, well a little...you know
J
MAXGRAD if I remeber correctly when that aircraft was at ymen it was the fastest climbing c-152 around and it was also the one with the most violent wing drop as well when stalling. So much so I think the 737 capt of nauru had it grounded. Good to see the old girl still flying. nig not nog 
