Whats it like at PEL-AIR? (Merged)
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Just curious as to what the pay and conditions are like at PEL-AIR?
PM me if you don't want to go public. I am considering applying.
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Just curious as to what the pay and conditions are like at PEL-AIR?
PM me if you don't want to go public. I am considering applying.
Cheers
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If 45k is acceptable, I hope a Captain gets a 5hetload more!
This is why flying in Aus is rubbish, When you pay more than $50k to earn 45K on a million dollar machine..
This is why flying in Aus is rubbish, When you pay more than $50k to earn 45K on a million dollar machine..
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Pel Air Recruitment
Hi fellow flyers
I have a question to ask, my cousin who is currently based in Malaysia instructing would like to know what the recruitment is like with Pel Air at the moment? What a/c would you start on as an F/O etc? and what are the conditions like?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I have a question to ask, my cousin who is currently based in Malaysia instructing would like to know what the recruitment is like with Pel Air at the moment? What a/c would you start on as an F/O etc? and what are the conditions like?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Metro FO is about $34,000 PA
Metro Capt about $52,000 PA,
they are award pay to the last dollar, so have a look at it. Not sure on Westwind pay, but it would be raw award also. $34K is pathetic considering you usually have 2-3000 hours before you get these sort of jobs. An insult really. In the past just about everyone had to start as an FO.
Metro Capt about $52,000 PA,
they are award pay to the last dollar, so have a look at it. Not sure on Westwind pay, but it would be raw award also. $34K is pathetic considering you usually have 2-3000 hours before you get these sort of jobs. An insult really. In the past just about everyone had to start as an FO.
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You made it that way
I moved to Alice Springs a long time ago, when charter flying in the city was becoming impossibly poorly paid due to too many pilots competing for too little flying. I was offered a job in Alice Springs flying light piston engined aircraft. My moving expenses were paid (furniture and family and all) and I was paid the award, (about the same as a teacher) and airfares paid once a year for me and my family to a capital city of my choice.
Fifteen years ago a chieftain/kingair pilot earned the same as a metro captain today, plus a car and free petrol.
A flood of airline wannabies who did not care, and considered GA to be a temporary, substandard stepping stone to the big bucks have been fighting over the scraps and dragging everything down for decades.
Now it is unusual to even get a full time charter job. Most pilots are on casual rates.
You reap what you sow.
And what happens to GA is now affecting the regionals,and the major airlines.
A different training system for the major airlines is needed. This obscene lottery is doing enormous damage to our aviation system.
Fifteen years ago a chieftain/kingair pilot earned the same as a metro captain today, plus a car and free petrol.
A flood of airline wannabies who did not care, and considered GA to be a temporary, substandard stepping stone to the big bucks have been fighting over the scraps and dragging everything down for decades.
Now it is unusual to even get a full time charter job. Most pilots are on casual rates.
You reap what you sow.
And what happens to GA is now affecting the regionals,and the major airlines.
A different training system for the major airlines is needed. This obscene lottery is doing enormous damage to our aviation system.
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As with any jobs there are good and bad parts of the job,
wages are low, when i left capt on the westwind were on around 56k
at the moment i believe progression is quick, the experience you gain from the company is very good.
some of the training techniques are a bit questionable however what you learn during these training flights will keep you safe as long as you dont get the invincible sky god mentality out of it. once you go to an airline you will find the training simple after getting through the pelair system
hope this helps
wages are low, when i left capt on the westwind were on around 56k
at the moment i believe progression is quick, the experience you gain from the company is very good.
some of the training techniques are a bit questionable however what you learn during these training flights will keep you safe as long as you dont get the invincible sky god mentality out of it. once you go to an airline you will find the training simple after getting through the pelair system
hope this helps
The "award" has never had CPI increases applied to it since it was put in stone. It has been kept as a so called "safety net".
A job paying the "award" is therefore junk.
A job paying less than the award is.............not a job!
A job paying the "award" is therefore junk.
A job paying less than the award is.............not a job!
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wages are low, when i left capt on the westwind were on around 56k
Anyone got any more up to date figures on Westwind Captains wage?
Cheers, HH.
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Yes
And as long as GA is used as a training ground for el cheapo airlines it will always be that way.
Unscrupulous airline wannabies will always be prepared to work cheap, and undermine GA wages.
Unscrupulous airline wannabies will always be prepared to work cheap, and undermine GA wages.