Crazy Approaches
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Queenstown, and Dunney-din are a walk in the park (please note my top gun reference
) compared to Innsbruk (austria) and Chambery (france)
Innsbruk..all as described..with the rapid wind changes, and SEVERE turb
Chambery...4.4 degree glideslope onto a 6000ft runway.....with a 9000 ft lump of granite 2.7 miles off the end of it...so one way in and one way out
Not saying NZQN isnt tough....rather that it is in a different league for public transport aircraft due to the escape routes available
) compared to Innsbruk (austria) and Chambery (france)Innsbruk..all as described..with the rapid wind changes, and SEVERE turb
Chambery...4.4 degree glideslope onto a 6000ft runway.....with a 9000 ft lump of granite 2.7 miles off the end of it...so one way in and one way out
Not saying NZQN isnt tough....rather that it is in a different league for public transport aircraft due to the escape routes available
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Maybe not interesting...but f@cking magic...
..any visual approach into Cairns on a Gorgeous FNQ day....
in particular stony creek @ 3000' then drop on to RWY 15....
Good stuff
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in particular stony creek @ 3000' then drop on to RWY 15....
Good stuff
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Crazy, no; Interesting? Yes
I always enjoyed the seaward, straight-in approach to NZGS from NZNR in the F27. Always fun with a new F/O in the RHS. Despite briefing them, the extra "Check for trains" call usually threw them.
And there was fun to be had on the 07 approach to NZNR using what is now officially listed as a 'composite' paved runway 07. It was mown grass and baked clay back then. Cross the shoreline,bunny-hop the power lines, over the fence to touchdown and STICK IT THERE! The slight curvature of the main runway where it crossed 07 made a mean 'ramp' which meant you became airborne again if you hadn't lost enough speed. More than once I hit the top of my straps when someone didn't get it quite right.
And there was fun to be had on the 07 approach to NZNR using what is now officially listed as a 'composite' paved runway 07. It was mown grass and baked clay back then. Cross the shoreline,bunny-hop the power lines, over the fence to touchdown and STICK IT THERE! The slight curvature of the main runway where it crossed 07 made a mean 'ramp' which meant you became airborne again if you hadn't lost enough speed. More than once I hit the top of my straps when someone didn't get it quite right.
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you gotta watch out for those bugsmashers though
Was Instructing at Ardmore Saturday while runway 03 was in use. Joined overhead, and found that there was an AFS aircraft joining overhead for 21! After a quick vacate to let the disoriented student in the AFS aircraft land, we re-joined for a well-deserved drink at the AFC bar. (non-alcoholic).
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Now THIS is a crazy approach..... all i can say is Super Cub in Alaska...
short vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4idAwr1B0eQ
short vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4idAwr1B0eQ
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Never flew it myself but was fortunate enough to have the Jumpseat several times into Kai Tak.
The approach into the old Albatross field (ALA) Northern Gold Coast, brilliant fun, the wheels virtually skimming the tree tops and then a quick side slip (no flaps - Drifter Ultralight) to wash off enough height and land on the clay pan, side slipping and cross winds in the lee of the McPherson ranges could be a real eye opener in the winter westerlies. Like Kai Tak sadly it no longer exists either, a victim of urban sprawl, there's houses where the field used to be.
I have a video of it, one day I'll get someone to put it onto the computer and then on to you tube??
The approach into the old Albatross field (ALA) Northern Gold Coast, brilliant fun, the wheels virtually skimming the tree tops and then a quick side slip (no flaps - Drifter Ultralight) to wash off enough height and land on the clay pan, side slipping and cross winds in the lee of the McPherson ranges could be a real eye opener in the winter westerlies. Like Kai Tak sadly it no longer exists either, a victim of urban sprawl, there's houses where the field used to be.
I have a video of it, one day I'll get someone to put it onto the computer and then on to you tube??
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No not flightsim...if you work there you'll see it sooner rather than later, crossing Nopen with a howling westerly...it does die away as you descend ...have fun
Certainly good fun some days would be Glentanner (NZGT), get a good South West wind up top, the wind funnels down the Tasman Valley to Lake Pukaki, which is fine - straight down 33 at 30 knots, then add the wind also funnelling out the Twin Stream (the 33 threshold is almost right in the middle of mouth of that valley), so you can be landing with 30 knots on the nose, then without warning 30 knots plus across just as you're about to touchdown.
It is also the only aerodrome I have seen a windsock limp at the mast, then stand out at 90 degrees to the mast, then spin a 360 degree clockwise windchange in about 30 seconds, steady, then a 360 degree windchange anti clockwise in 30 seconds, then go limp.
I have also got airbourne from Glentanner in a 207 with just me on board, climbed to about 200' by mid runway length, then while holding full power, 10 degrees flap, the aircraft descended (while holding best angle of climb speed), back on to the runway about 75% length, then back into the air.
All good fun - and keeps you on your toes!! But 95% of the time, it is a predictable easy aerodrome, 5% of the time it can be a good workout! But I realise there can be worse places out there some others have flown into and out of!
It is also the only aerodrome I have seen a windsock limp at the mast, then stand out at 90 degrees to the mast, then spin a 360 degree clockwise windchange in about 30 seconds, steady, then a 360 degree windchange anti clockwise in 30 seconds, then go limp.
I have also got airbourne from Glentanner in a 207 with just me on board, climbed to about 200' by mid runway length, then while holding full power, 10 degrees flap, the aircraft descended (while holding best angle of climb speed), back on to the runway about 75% length, then back into the air.
All good fun - and keeps you on your toes!! But 95% of the time, it is a predictable easy aerodrome, 5% of the time it can be a good workout! But I realise there can be worse places out there some others have flown into and out of!
I have also got airbourne from Glentanner in a 207 with just me on board, climbed to about 200' by mid runway length, then while holding full power, 10 degrees flap, the aircraft descended (while holding best angle of climb speed), back on to the runway about 75% length, then back into the air.
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Old Canberra NDB approach
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I used to use this approach for practising NDB approaches. Although not particularly difficult, it had all the things you were likely to find, and the missed approach level was high enough to be used at Alice Springs. The missed approach took you right back to the NDB at the correct height to immediately begin another approach. You could keep doing this all day with no lost time. (except when the Boeings were coming)
In those days we also used to practise "DME" approaches, using only the DME. No other ground aids. You used the compass and ground speed to fly a pattern to the minima. It worked.
I used to use this approach for practising NDB approaches. Although not particularly difficult, it had all the things you were likely to find, and the missed approach level was high enough to be used at Alice Springs. The missed approach took you right back to the NDB at the correct height to immediately begin another approach. You could keep doing this all day with no lost time. (except when the Boeings were coming)
In those days we also used to practise "DME" approaches, using only the DME. No other ground aids. You used the compass and ground speed to fly a pattern to the minima. It worked.
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