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Old 11th Jan 2008, 01:43
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Bendo

That brings a new meaning to "Shock Cooling"

Talk about Big Balls and Long Props

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Old 11th Jan 2008, 01:47
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Have to agree Bushy, the old Canberra NDB outbound 230 inbound 050, plus all those procedure turns, great with a screaming Northerly. My IFR instructor loved that approach with a bloody passion, it still gives me friggin nightmares and still gives him wetdreams I think.
There was a couple other NDB approaches that were interesting including the Cooktown in the late 1980's and another in NSW.
Bet no one has a copy of the Armunda Airways RWY 09 NDB approach for Jabiru, it must be only a limited edition.
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As was mentioned before, what sorts the men from the boys is "no overshoot". Also forget about any Public transport operations into airfields. They by law have to have a low degree of risk. (Yes I have operated into the old Hong Kong and Innsbruck among others)

Some of the ag strips I have seen in NZ for example, take a lot of beating for skill required. E.G., a curved (banana) strip where the top of a ridge has been planed down, one way and no overshoot.

But my hat goes off to the bush pilots of Alaska. I thought I was quiet good but beside some of them I look like a boy in short pants.
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helicopters in the mountains

You should see what the venison hunters do with helicopters in NZ's southern alps.
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I know we (PNG/ex PNG) guys do it to these threads everytime, and some may find it galling, but you'll just have to get used to it.







Same strip from the landing threshold.





That would be game, set an snatch.
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And that was on a clear when you could actually take a photo hey chuck?

Who needs VMC when you can fly by braile

Not sure i want to fly up there, but it must be bloody good fun when you get over the nerves, if you ever do!

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helicopters in the mountains

You should see what the venison hunters do with helicopters in NZ's southern alps.
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Old 11th Jan 2008, 08:34
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Ahh memories!!!

Tapini, ??, Kamulai and Sopu!!

I was wondering if anyone was going to mention the Tapini ILS.

Now that was an interesting approach, especially when there was a small cloud which occasionally formed right over the threshold of the runway.

Most disconcerting to go IMC for about two to three seconds at approximately 50'AGL.
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Any pictures of Woitape or Fani (in PNG)?
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Dont nod off halfway thru this

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Old 13th Jan 2008, 06:22
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From NZ

Kaikoura RWY 05
Mount Cook Airport
Franz Joseph Airport From the east
Foxpine Airport from the east

Queenstown... But I'm not a Boeing or Airbus or ATR driver so I find QN is more simple than those listed above
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tinpis

Wasn't that the chart being used by the Thai Airways pilots who put their Airbus into the rocks on the far side of the airport?

I seem to recall in Macarthur Job's excellent series of books that the SAS chart was a probable cause of a misunderstanding between the crew and ATC when they needed to return to the start of the approach.
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How bout this one in Tegucigalpa, Honduras . Looks exciting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_z5HtME9n8
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The Travel Lodge arrival into Darwin always an adventure.Couldn't be done in an Airbus the old 727 folk would say. More like the old 727 folk couldn't do it in an Airbus.....

Katmandu is painful because the two airlines I've flown there with have you arriving back of the clock.
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rjtjrt... I don't have any of Woitape in this collection but there's one of Fane among them. The URL is http://www.fototime.com/inv/E7B5232FB30FCD1. I hope they help.
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I've only done Innsbruck in the sim.

My personal fav is Sion, Switzerland, LSGS.
Approach is an IGS. Starts at 17,000'. 6 deg slope until 5.5d where you need to break off and jink left to get onto the centreline. Need to be visual by 8,000'
Can't fly over the hospital. (it's bright orange and easy to spot).

The escape procedure's a laugh. Head down the valley, turn right into the Rhone valley, go to Geneva LSGG.

It's not too tricky but unbelievably spectacular.


For another challenge, Samedan LSZS is quite interesting. Charts


London City EGLC's also entertaining. Nice hand flown 5.5 deg ILS with a short runway.

Went into Chambery LFLB the other day. Cracking day, great vis. At FL70 (MSA for that sector 6500') Then they tell us the ILS is out. (Not notam'd). OK, LOC/DME arrival with circle to land on rwy36. You do get close to those hills. FO had never been there before.


Not as eye opening as PNG but fun all the same.

The Falcon fleet guys went to Nepal last year.

G'day Oz
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Old 14th Jan 2008, 14:41
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Yes Chimbu, Done the same a few times and whole heartily agree with your apprassial. To top it off, routing was Kai Tak - Kathmandu return in a 747. A very interesting day out.
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Lukla in the Himalayas looks trouser-changing
Went in there a few years ago in a MiL-8 with a Russian crew - marginal conditions, and Ivan was sweating profusely as we were having trouble staying within the valley (in a chopper, albeit quite a large one). I was also beginning to perspire freely...

We had to divert - to Syangboche (elevation 12,450ft). Chased in by the cloud and had to stay the night in the Sherpa Lodge. The only thing they had to drink was hundreds of bottles of Chivas Regal....
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Lukla in the Himalayas looks trouser-changing
Went in there a few years ago in a MiL-8 with a Russian crew - marginal conditions, and Ivan was sweating profusely as we were having trouble staying within the valley (in a chopper, albeit quite a large one!!!!). I was also beginning to perspire freely...

We had to divert - to Syangboche (elevation 12,450ft). Chased in by the cloud and had to stay the night in the Sherpa Lodge. The only thing they had to drink was hundreds of bottles of Chivas Regal....
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Tioman Island

The first time I paxed into Tioman in a Dash-7 it got my attention. Approach is up the bay, straight at the checkerboard on the lhs with a last moment hard right to the one-way strip, amongst the trees down low on the rhs of the photo. Missed approach ? I don't think so ! High ground to the left, right and centre. I'm sure the oil on the windows wasn't a lack of maintenance, it was carefully cultivated to stop the passengers seeing the approach.

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