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Old 19th Jul 2006, 00:34
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Frederick Valentich

Does anyone know what happened to Flight Service recordings of the Valentich radio tranmissions? Would anyone have a copy they could pass on to me?
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Old 19th Jul 2006, 01:23
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Was that the pilot who went missing in Bass Strait many years ago,after reporting to the FSU that he saw UFOs ? Very sad and interesting story.
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Old 19th Jul 2006, 05:06
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Originally Posted by muddergoose
Does anyone know what happened to Flight Service recordings of the Valentich radio tranmissions? Would anyone have a copy they could pass on to me?
I remember reading years ago the file was closed and the tapes destroyed.

I doubt if there are any "copies" in existence.
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You will find the original transcript HERE .
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Old 19th Jul 2006, 06:47
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http://members.ozemail.com.au/~vufors/valensum.htm

this one is a better read, these are the actual people who investigated the disappearance of Frederick....Paul Norman is a UFO investigator I met him once at Moorrabin Airport, very intelligent bloke and lots of stories to tell..
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The electromagnetic effect from the UFO may have stalled his engine (since he did report the engine was rough-idling or "coughing") and caused him to crash into the water.
From the site archangel7 posted.

The engine "stalled". There ya have it folks
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Yep......simple Natit .........the engine stalled folks ..............from the electromagnetic effect from the UFO ?

Bummer ain't it.
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maybe he should have used a little more juice as he let the clutch out?
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I remember as a young FSO in Melbourne listening to a cassette tape one of the Watch Super's had of Valentich's last transmissions. Who knows if that tape still exists.
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Old 19th Jul 2006, 13:13
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So did he sound like he was packing darkies?
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Old 19th Jul 2006, 22:29
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From memory, and the tape wasn't that clear as he was fairly low and the transmissions were fairly short, he seemed to be confused. I've heard the stories that it was a stunt and he flew off to a new life etc, or that he got unsettled and disoriented by reflections from the Cape Otway lighthouse, so it's hard to say. I had conversations with the FSO on duty that night who was in comms with him and I think he was pretty certain he went into the water.
Maybe he's in a hangar in Roswell?
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Old 19th Jul 2006, 23:30
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I have a copy of the tapes..... I was an FSO

I do not know how to get the audio from the cassette into the computer. I could get my 9 year old son to show me how, but otherwise, does anyone have any ideas of how to do it..

.. and IMHO, he was ****ting bricks, and genuine about it, too.....
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Was that around the time the B & B Frightener went in?

Dubya be worthwhile copying that onto a disk.
Lots of places will do it for you.
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Dubya: "I was an FSO"

In Melbourne, mid-eighties?
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"Was that around the time the B & B Frightener went in?"

Les Barnes went in 74/75 (engine failure couldn't stay up on one and a night ditching with fixed gear) the Valentinich business was a couple of years later. The were a lot of interesting stories at the time and I think the consensis was that he was in Bass Strait the question was "what about the a/c".

I never heard of any resolution of the landing/fuel theft/TO incident at Colac that evening.
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I recall the incident but can't find a report in the ATSB database. Anyone know the ATSB/BASI Occurrence Number?

There's also a B707 in Bass Strait as many will recall!

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Wooms old chap, the B707 wasn't an extra terrestrial alien culture, it was a culture alien to the real world.
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Steady on gaunty, the B727 was hot on the heals of the 707. You're not going to say anything derogatory about her are you?

Could only find the summary report W.
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I have a copy of the tapes..... I was an FSO
So was I, long after Fred's disappearance. It was a sort of initiation into ML FSC to hear it. Was especially poignant for me as I knew Fred (not particularly well, but we shared huts on camps a couple of times) from our time in AirTC. Regardless if it were real or not it was easy to hear he was sh1tting blue bricks.

Much as I'd like to hear it again Dubbya, be careful how you distribute the audio. Part of the initiation was to be told it was an illegal copy & I'm not sure what the consequences would be if you are sprung with it.

So how is Strobes getting on?
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To those of you who have heard the tape..... Did it sound legit? What was the tone of his voice like? In other words, does it sound believable?

I would love to hear the tape, I think we all would.... it should be available to the public... and why is it an illegal copy? What is the government trying to hide from us? Who cares? What’s the difference whether we hear it on tape or read it on paper?? I guess the tape revels a lot more…like the tone of his voice and the last transmission of the strange sound which was heard that interrupted the last statement of the pilot. If there is nothing to hide then why can’t we hear the tape? by hiding the tape the authorities can come up with a number of conclusions to the case, such as "he was disorientated" or confused with the light house and come up with another million other strange excuses... but, if we listen to the tape it is obvious enough that a UFO was the cause of the disappearance of Fred and the 182. Also, considering that during that period there where an outstanding amount of UFO sightings especially around the Port Phillip bay area.... and there have been witnesses who claim to have seen a Cessna chased by a cigar shaped object...I think the tape revels everything and the public deserves to know the truth...The tape should be available for the public to listen to especially for his family… or at least for accident investigations..How are we supposed to improve aviation safety in the GA if it is prohibited the see the hard evidence to a particular case so we can prevent its recurrence ??
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