Cessna 209 POH and hire
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Stationair8, due to the constraints of CAO 48 I hear CASA are considering allowing FO's attempting to reach their 500hrs in four months to log C209 time accrued on Flight Sim. 
This should be a great employment advantage for new pilots looking for their first job as they can take an FO position without actually ever flying the aircraft. It should also cut down on training costs considerably.
This should be a great employment advantage for new pilots looking for their first job as they can take an FO position without actually ever flying the aircraft. It should also cut down on training costs considerably.
Hasn't anybody told you lot!!
Bah! Humbug!!
The FOs job on the 209 is to occupy the rear most seat, which is a little vertically adjustable arrangement and, with his feet thru the horizontally cut / vertically aligned hatch, use same to keep tail from dragging on ground until full elevator authority is achieved.
He/she then works his /her way fo'rad, to assist in fwd c of g movement, and to exercise complete control over the dual thronomisters which can be operated only from the RH seat due to pilot workload, P - factor, and torque.
It works in the reverse sense on landing.......
Its in the POH!!! Honestly!!
Bah! Humbug!!
The FOs job on the 209 is to occupy the rear most seat, which is a little vertically adjustable arrangement and, with his feet thru the horizontally cut / vertically aligned hatch, use same to keep tail from dragging on ground until full elevator authority is achieved.
He/she then works his /her way fo'rad, to assist in fwd c of g movement, and to exercise complete control over the dual thronomisters which can be operated only from the RH seat due to pilot workload, P - factor, and torque.
It works in the reverse sense on landing.......
Its in the POH!!! Honestly!!
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Just wanted to add this article from NT News today,
CSG ANNOUNCE NEW AIRCRAFT PURCHASES
Darwin technology group CSG Ltd. today announced its purchase of 3 Cessna 207-900 aircraft, after its loss of a Chieftan aircraft in Fridays crash off East Point Reserve.
A source inside CSG has told the Eggbeater that due to the inability of certain pilots, who due to a CASA inquest will not be named, have reported to the company that the CSU/RG aircraft currently operated by the group have significant difficulty in successfully completing water landings. It has been stated by pilots working on the airfield that the aircraft, (207-900), will be alot easier to fly by the CSG pilots due to the fact that the aircraft has only one engine, and that having two engines has been proven to be both expensive, (due to insurance premiums and excess for that matter), and useless for its single engine operation.
The new aircraft ordered by the company come fitted with fixed flotation devices of a similar design to those of Paspaley Pearling Company operating next door to the hangar owned by CSG. The flotation devices are said to contain bladders, used to store avgas, a lighter than water fuel used to run the aircrafts single high performance engine. This will not only increase it effective flight time to 12 hours but will increase the efficiency of the floats should the company wish to continue sea and water landings.
A spokesperson for Cessna has said the new state-of-the-art aircraft are perfect for operations into Darwin and Arnhem land, "due to the extreme lifting capabilities and range of the aircraft, it is able to travel long distances, carrying sometimes up to 10 adults, 3 children, 4 dogs and several of the mistereous tv's carried from town to town from one side of the NT to the other. This will be not only a lifeline to the people in the remote communities, but also to the CSG employees who travel to these remote areas, carrying out repairs on the computer systems funded by the Federal Government that have been ruined by missuse, fire, flood, bodily feces and porn viruses."
The new aircraft are due to be delivered late next month. A representitive for the company has said that a service will be held at the Bagot Road Community to officialy commerarate the lauch of the new aircraft early April. All wishing to attend are urged not to carry pornography or alcohol into the community, however it is of custom to bring, (as a gift to the residents), a small container housing either petrol or metholayted spirits. NT Police also urge all those attending to bring a large supply of cigarettes and dollar coins to help out the brothers and sisters there.
CSG ANNOUNCE NEW AIRCRAFT PURCHASES
Darwin technology group CSG Ltd. today announced its purchase of 3 Cessna 207-900 aircraft, after its loss of a Chieftan aircraft in Fridays crash off East Point Reserve.
A source inside CSG has told the Eggbeater that due to the inability of certain pilots, who due to a CASA inquest will not be named, have reported to the company that the CSU/RG aircraft currently operated by the group have significant difficulty in successfully completing water landings. It has been stated by pilots working on the airfield that the aircraft, (207-900), will be alot easier to fly by the CSG pilots due to the fact that the aircraft has only one engine, and that having two engines has been proven to be both expensive, (due to insurance premiums and excess for that matter), and useless for its single engine operation.
The new aircraft ordered by the company come fitted with fixed flotation devices of a similar design to those of Paspaley Pearling Company operating next door to the hangar owned by CSG. The flotation devices are said to contain bladders, used to store avgas, a lighter than water fuel used to run the aircrafts single high performance engine. This will not only increase it effective flight time to 12 hours but will increase the efficiency of the floats should the company wish to continue sea and water landings.
A spokesperson for Cessna has said the new state-of-the-art aircraft are perfect for operations into Darwin and Arnhem land, "due to the extreme lifting capabilities and range of the aircraft, it is able to travel long distances, carrying sometimes up to 10 adults, 3 children, 4 dogs and several of the mistereous tv's carried from town to town from one side of the NT to the other. This will be not only a lifeline to the people in the remote communities, but also to the CSG employees who travel to these remote areas, carrying out repairs on the computer systems funded by the Federal Government that have been ruined by missuse, fire, flood, bodily feces and porn viruses."
The new aircraft are due to be delivered late next month. A representitive for the company has said that a service will be held at the Bagot Road Community to officialy commerarate the lauch of the new aircraft early April. All wishing to attend are urged not to carry pornography or alcohol into the community, however it is of custom to bring, (as a gift to the residents), a small container housing either petrol or metholayted spirits. NT Police also urge all those attending to bring a large supply of cigarettes and dollar coins to help out the brothers and sisters there.
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Well well well... it’s amazing that with all the magnificent flying machines available today, a thread about the rare little C209 can continue to grow three years after it was started. Guys this is one amazing aircraft! I now have 2000 hrs on the machine and still love it. Although strangely enough I still haven’t found a POH for it 
It’s really funny that at the start so many people refused to believe me that such an aircraft even existed! I think that attitude has finally disappeared and although most of you will never get the chance to see one in real life, you can accept that there are 209's buzzing around the outback as we speak.
One of my most memorable experiences with the 209 involved transporting 27 Emu's from Calcutta to some place in China. We didn’t have any cages available so we just squashed them into the cabin. There was even one sitting in the co-pilots seat, and he (or she) helped heaps by reading the checklists and poking me in the eye if I fell asleep. Anyway, as we were rolling down the runway for takeoff, I suddenly figured out that we were well over MTOW and it was too late to stop. Somehow the Emu's sensed the trouble and started flapping their wings which created enough extra lift to get the plane into the air. I couldn’t thank them enough after we landed! They were my best passengers ever, and to show my appreciation I decided to adopt them all as pets.
I think there’s a few more 209's in Aus now, compared to a few years ago. So don’t hold back if you get the chance for a ride in one.
Cheers
Tiger
It’s really funny that at the start so many people refused to believe me that such an aircraft even existed! I think that attitude has finally disappeared and although most of you will never get the chance to see one in real life, you can accept that there are 209's buzzing around the outback as we speak.
One of my most memorable experiences with the 209 involved transporting 27 Emu's from Calcutta to some place in China. We didn’t have any cages available so we just squashed them into the cabin. There was even one sitting in the co-pilots seat, and he (or she) helped heaps by reading the checklists and poking me in the eye if I fell asleep. Anyway, as we were rolling down the runway for takeoff, I suddenly figured out that we were well over MTOW and it was too late to stop. Somehow the Emu's sensed the trouble and started flapping their wings which created enough extra lift to get the plane into the air. I couldn’t thank them enough after we landed! They were my best passengers ever, and to show my appreciation I decided to adopt them all as pets.
I think there’s a few more 209's in Aus now, compared to a few years ago. So don’t hold back if you get the chance for a ride in one.
Cheers
Tiger
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C219
C209 - as one "super" airline once said "thats old technology".
I heard a rumor that there is a C219 in the pipeline.....something about 19 seats with an IO520 (with a Black Mac Prop), comes standard with nosewheel and tailwheel (wingtip wheels optional for PPL training version). I heard they have also formed a "pilots choice committee" to maintain some of the more loved Cessna features from previous aircraft such a miniscule air vents, bladder tanks, cerated trailing edge flaps at forehead height, random inflight door popper, etc.
Anyone heard anything more?
I heard a rumor that there is a C219 in the pipeline.....something about 19 seats with an IO520 (with a Black Mac Prop), comes standard with nosewheel and tailwheel (wingtip wheels optional for PPL training version). I heard they have also formed a "pilots choice committee" to maintain some of the more loved Cessna features from previous aircraft such a miniscule air vents, bladder tanks, cerated trailing edge flaps at forehead height, random inflight door popper, etc.
Anyone heard anything more?
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I heard the 219 has extra shoulder room so you can wear your full entitled amount of stripes on your uniform. I think the command on the 219 gets you six bars aside.
Ive only logged 512 hrs so far but Im enjoying the challenge of the C209 immensly. Unfortunately we can not use one of our airstrips up here in PNG because even though the landing distance required is adequate (sea level, ISA+20), the length of the 209 means the aircraft can not be turned around for the takeoff (its a one way strip). One of the guys diverted there one day, and the only way to get out was to hire a chinook and chopper it out.
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Turbo
There is a mod for installation of a Subaru WRX turbo for the IO-520 that can be purchased on-line...think it is about $50 or so. It is a simple bolt on in the field by the pilot man. Could solve all your problems with hot and high - as I hear those Columbia helicopter guys can get a bit heavy handed when doing the long lining with the C209. Bloody chopper pilots - don't know a good machine when they pick it up!! I hear that the Vertol 109 doesn't have the guts for plane extractions either!!!
With regards to the problem turning around at the one way trips - I used to take about 100kg of marbles in the front hatch with me and when I would pull up - just through them all on the ground and push the plane around on the marbles. Tried it with bubble gum balls one day - but it was a hopeless failure and got me into a gooey mess with the Chiefs daughter.......
If it is still too tight - old man Wilde used to have a PMA for the "C209 crevice cracker" - the mod where it is split in the middle and rejoined by suitcase clips. So you pull up - split the sucker in half and turn the 2 halves around and clip back together - Just like one of those David Copperfield cut the pretty lady in the suitcase in half trick. Gets a bit flexy in turbulence but it gives the rear seats a great smooth ride.
With regards to the problem turning around at the one way trips - I used to take about 100kg of marbles in the front hatch with me and when I would pull up - just through them all on the ground and push the plane around on the marbles. Tried it with bubble gum balls one day - but it was a hopeless failure and got me into a gooey mess with the Chiefs daughter.......
If it is still too tight - old man Wilde used to have a PMA for the "C209 crevice cracker" - the mod where it is split in the middle and rejoined by suitcase clips. So you pull up - split the sucker in half and turn the 2 halves around and clip back together - Just like one of those David Copperfield cut the pretty lady in the suitcase in half trick. Gets a bit flexy in turbulence but it gives the rear seats a great smooth ride.
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I heard about the WRX kit aswell, if your lucky and get the upgrade to the STI version they give you a full set of brembo's to help you pull up for those days you needed that extra doughnut.
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Cessna have announced the new model 236. Cessna 209 with Cessna 336 rear engine added.
For those much more clevererer than moi......
P I C T U R E S ..?? Sunfish?
e.g I believe the 209 'all singing' Garmin display was developed by Hoyts......
Anybody..??
P I C T U R E S ..?? Sunfish?
e.g I believe the 209 'all singing' Garmin display was developed by Hoyts......
Anybody..??
Is it true that the C209 has a crew changing area so that the pilot can change from his mediocre work attire into full bling for the trip home via various public places?
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C209E (Emu Lift)
Interesting that Emus, a flightless bird, can't manage to create enough lift to sustain their own weight but when 27 of them are combined, including their weight, they manage to assist the C209 in lifting off. Personally I never had any trouble getting the 209 off the ground even, just slightly, above MTOW 
There's something wonderful about the internet in how it preserves the wit of those who are sadly no longer with us. Their memory surfaces again when threads like this are brought up and it's like they never left.
It's been nearly a year mate.
Hope you haven't drunk the place dry yet.
It's been nearly a year mate.
Hope you haven't drunk the place dry yet.
