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CASA Media Release - Friday, 3 March 2006
Pilots: Just click for ASIC help
Pilots who have applied to the Civil Aviation Safety Authority for an Aviation Security Identification Card have a special new way of getting an update on the progress of their application.
An ASIC application page has been set up on the CASA web site to help pilots who have aviation security card questions.
To find out what is happening with their ASIC application lodged with CASA, pilots simply fill in a web form and submit it with the click of their mouse.
The easy-to-use web form will streamline the process of answering ASIC questions from pilots.
Pilots will find using the web form easier than ringing CASA with their ASIC questions. They should note that CASA can only answer questions about ASIC applications lodged with the regulator.
CASA is currently processing more than 10,000 ASIC applications from pilots across the nation.
The goal is to complete the processing of as many of these as possible before the end of this month.
After March 31 pilots requiring access to secure areas of regional airports will be required to display an ASIC.
ASICs are already required for pilots using the long standing security controlled areas of capital city and other major airports.
Those pilots who applied to CASA for an ASIC before the official application deadline of the end of 2005 are being given priority over pilots who sent in applications this year.
Applications for ASICs made this year are being processed chronologically – with the earliest being dealt with first.
However, all pilots who wish to access security controlled aerodromes who have not yet submitted an ASIC application are being urged to do so as quickly as possible.
Where pilots have made a mistake in their ASIC application CASA is contacting them by telephone, fax or email to correct the problem as quickly as possible.
To access the new ASIC application web page go to: www.casa.gov.au/securitycheck
Media contact:
Peter Gibson
mobile 0419 296 446
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Pilots: Just click for ASIC help
Pilots who have applied to the Civil Aviation Safety Authority for an Aviation Security Identification Card have a special new way of getting an update on the progress of their application.
An ASIC application page has been set up on the CASA web site to help pilots who have aviation security card questions.
To find out what is happening with their ASIC application lodged with CASA, pilots simply fill in a web form and submit it with the click of their mouse.
The easy-to-use web form will streamline the process of answering ASIC questions from pilots.
Pilots will find using the web form easier than ringing CASA with their ASIC questions. They should note that CASA can only answer questions about ASIC applications lodged with the regulator.
CASA is currently processing more than 10,000 ASIC applications from pilots across the nation.
The goal is to complete the processing of as many of these as possible before the end of this month.
After March 31 pilots requiring access to secure areas of regional airports will be required to display an ASIC.
ASICs are already required for pilots using the long standing security controlled areas of capital city and other major airports.
Those pilots who applied to CASA for an ASIC before the official application deadline of the end of 2005 are being given priority over pilots who sent in applications this year.
Applications for ASICs made this year are being processed chronologically – with the earliest being dealt with first.
However, all pilots who wish to access security controlled aerodromes who have not yet submitted an ASIC application are being urged to do so as quickly as possible.
Where pilots have made a mistake in their ASIC application CASA is contacting them by telephone, fax or email to correct the problem as quickly as possible.
To access the new ASIC application web page go to: www.casa.gov.au/securitycheck
Media contact:
Peter Gibson
mobile 0419 296 446
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subtle changes to the rules.
In all The DOTARS media releases and pamphlets, including letters from The Minister it was noted;
"that if you required "ACCESS" to the "SECURITY RESTRICTED ZONE" of a security restricted airport, you would need an ASIC.
Now it is;
"However, all pilots who "WISH TO ACCESS SECURITY CONTROLLED AERODROMES" who have not yet submitted an ASIC application are being urged to do so as quickly as possible".
I am sure this confusion is planned.
This is not what the original pamphlets said.
"that if you required "ACCESS" to the "SECURITY RESTRICTED ZONE" of a security restricted airport, you would need an ASIC.
Now it is;
"However, all pilots who "WISH TO ACCESS SECURITY CONTROLLED AERODROMES" who have not yet submitted an ASIC application are being urged to do so as quickly as possible".
I am sure this confusion is planned.
This is not what the original pamphlets said.
"The goal is to complete the processing of as many of these as possible before the end of this month.
After March 31 pilots requiring access to secure areas of regional airports will be required to display an ASIC."
Gotta love those two lines together without any other elaboration in between.
After March 31 pilots requiring access to secure areas of regional airports will be required to display an ASIC."
Gotta love those two lines together without any other elaboration in between.
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In 2004, ASIO "re-issued" all ASICs.
Not a physical re-issue, but a second look at all holders, to ensure no baddies had slipped through.
No great fanfare, but it did take slightly longer than planned; there were 10,000 + more checks to do than planned. Over 70,000 total, in fact.
No adverse findings, although several investigations were undertaken.
The point to this?
Food for thought and an interesting comparison to the current debacle.
Not a physical re-issue, but a second look at all holders, to ensure no baddies had slipped through.
No great fanfare, but it did take slightly longer than planned; there were 10,000 + more checks to do than planned. Over 70,000 total, in fact.
No adverse findings, although several investigations were undertaken.
The point to this?
Food for thought and an interesting comparison to the current debacle.
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The Australian is not quite so conciliatory;
CASA puts pilot security online
Full marks to them for doing this 
Puts the remarks made by the Minister's "Spokesperson" blaming pilots for the delays in a bit of a different light.
CASA puts pilot security online
CASA puts pilot security online
Steve Creedy
MARCH 03, 2006
THE air safety regulator has set up a web page to let pilots check the progress of their Aviation Security Identification Card applications amid signs some passes will not be issued by this month's extended deadline.
Pilots will need to display the passes after March 31 in order to gain access to secure areas of regional airports but the Civil Aviation Safety Authority has so far finished processing only 4200 of the 12,500 applications it has received. About 5500 of the unprocessed applications are understood to be still undergoing background checks by the Australian Federal Police.
CASA says the new web page, which will apply only to applications lodged with the authority, will be quicker than trying to telephone with a query.
The Government has battled with the strengthened security card requirements since the move was announced in 2003. Early bureaucratic bungling caused widespread delays and confusion.
Last year the Government tried to streamline the process by making CASA a centralised issuing authority.
But it made the decision too late, and Transport Minister Warren Truss was forced to extend the original deadline of December 31.
CASA says it is now giving priority to those pilots who lodged their applications before the December deadline, and processing those that were lodged this year in the order they were received.
It is also trying to contact as quickly as possible pilots who have made mistakes in their ASIC applications. CASA spokesman Peter Gibson said it was difficult to estimate how many of the unprocessed ASICs would be through before the deadline.
"The goal is to get it all done before the end off the month," he said.
"Certainly we want to get done all those people who met the official deadline of December 31 - that's only fair to them.
"The ones that didn't meet the deadline and put them in this year, we'll get as many done as possible but it may not be possible to do all of them."
Mr Gibson said the authority was still receiving late applications and those would not be processed by the deadline.
He urged anyone who had not lodged the paperwork yet to do so as soon as possible.
The Australian
Steve Creedy
MARCH 03, 2006
THE air safety regulator has set up a web page to let pilots check the progress of their Aviation Security Identification Card applications amid signs some passes will not be issued by this month's extended deadline.
Pilots will need to display the passes after March 31 in order to gain access to secure areas of regional airports but the Civil Aviation Safety Authority has so far finished processing only 4200 of the 12,500 applications it has received. About 5500 of the unprocessed applications are understood to be still undergoing background checks by the Australian Federal Police.
CASA says the new web page, which will apply only to applications lodged with the authority, will be quicker than trying to telephone with a query.
The Government has battled with the strengthened security card requirements since the move was announced in 2003. Early bureaucratic bungling caused widespread delays and confusion.
Last year the Government tried to streamline the process by making CASA a centralised issuing authority.
But it made the decision too late, and Transport Minister Warren Truss was forced to extend the original deadline of December 31.
CASA says it is now giving priority to those pilots who lodged their applications before the December deadline, and processing those that were lodged this year in the order they were received.
It is also trying to contact as quickly as possible pilots who have made mistakes in their ASIC applications. CASA spokesman Peter Gibson said it was difficult to estimate how many of the unprocessed ASICs would be through before the deadline.
"The goal is to get it all done before the end off the month," he said.
"Certainly we want to get done all those people who met the official deadline of December 31 - that's only fair to them.
"The ones that didn't meet the deadline and put them in this year, we'll get as many done as possible but it may not be possible to do all of them."
Mr Gibson said the authority was still receiving late applications and those would not be processed by the deadline.
He urged anyone who had not lodged the paperwork yet to do so as soon as possible.
The Australian
Puts the remarks made by the Minister's "Spokesperson" blaming pilots for the delays in a bit of a different light.
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TLAW at the risk of sounding like an apologist for the Govt and agencies Creedys throw away;
is written in complete ignorance of the facts and understanding of the complexity and widely dispersed nature of the issue.
Beyond the serial and predictable whinging in the press and their mag the organisation that purports to represent the group most affected, has been conspicuous in their lack of long term proactive engagement in supporting all of the stakeholders, and yes that includes the Govt. and agencies in driving towards an efficient and timely resolution of what will become a permanent part of our transport landscape for the foreseeable future.
Consultation with over 190 diferent airports, 5 or 6 different agencies, a dozen or so airlines, a score of alphabet soup orgs and dealing with and deflecting the usual sabre rattlers and chest beaters is bound to throw up more questions than answers.
NO ONE in Australia has EVER been there before, the learning curve is still asymptotic.
Doesn't matter who, what, where or why, the nutters are always with us and in ever increasing numbers. In my career to date, I have been directly involved as the recipient of two bomb threats, one involving a B707 the other involving a brace of charter aircraft en route to a very large mine opening with the Premier, Cabinet and several Chairmen CEO's of multibillion dollar enterprises on board. Both non religious and both locally generated.
If you think the 9/11 event through, the planning and the choice and use of weapon against a series of Western Icons was a stunning achievement.
It has taught the nutters of the world, in one fell swoop, to think waaayy outside the square.
Early bureaucratic bungling caused widespread delays and confusion.
Last year the Government tried to streamline the process by making CASA a centralised issuing authority.
But it made the decision too late, and Transport Minister Warren Truss was forced to extend the original deadline of December 31.
Last year the Government tried to streamline the process by making CASA a centralised issuing authority.
But it made the decision too late, and Transport Minister Warren Truss was forced to extend the original deadline of December 31.
Beyond the serial and predictable whinging in the press and their mag the organisation that purports to represent the group most affected, has been conspicuous in their lack of long term proactive engagement in supporting all of the stakeholders, and yes that includes the Govt. and agencies in driving towards an efficient and timely resolution of what will become a permanent part of our transport landscape for the foreseeable future.
Consultation with over 190 diferent airports, 5 or 6 different agencies, a dozen or so airlines, a score of alphabet soup orgs and dealing with and deflecting the usual sabre rattlers and chest beaters is bound to throw up more questions than answers.
NO ONE in Australia has EVER been there before, the learning curve is still asymptotic.
Doesn't matter who, what, where or why, the nutters are always with us and in ever increasing numbers. In my career to date, I have been directly involved as the recipient of two bomb threats, one involving a B707 the other involving a brace of charter aircraft en route to a very large mine opening with the Premier, Cabinet and several Chairmen CEO's of multibillion dollar enterprises on board. Both non religious and both locally generated.
If you think the 9/11 event through, the planning and the choice and use of weapon against a series of Western Icons was a stunning achievement.
It has taught the nutters of the world, in one fell swoop, to think waaayy outside the square.
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Gaunty,
As I said - full marks to them for doing it and three big thumbs up from me. I don't necessarily agree with Creedy, I was merely posting the article as it pertains to the issue.
I will, however, remember the press releases put out by the Minister's spokesperson. It was those inflammatory remarks that originally drove me to put pen to paper and write to the Minister.
Once again - CASA have demonstrated, in the best way possible (actions speaking louder than press releases) their willingness to help pilots work through this issue
Re-reading this post I can see it is ambiguous - the "them" referred to is CASA. Apologies for any confusion *smacks head*
As I said - full marks to them for doing it and three big thumbs up from me. I don't necessarily agree with Creedy, I was merely posting the article as it pertains to the issue.
I will, however, remember the press releases put out by the Minister's spokesperson. It was those inflammatory remarks that originally drove me to put pen to paper and write to the Minister.
Once again - CASA have demonstrated, in the best way possible (actions speaking louder than press releases) their willingness to help pilots work through this issue
Re-reading this post I can see it is ambiguous - the "them" referred to is CASA. Apologies for any confusion *smacks head*
Last edited by TLAW; 6th Mar 2006 at 23:32.
Originally Posted by TLAW
Gaunty,
I will, however, remember the press releases put out by the Minister's spokesperson. It was those inflammatory remarks that originally drove me to put pen to paper and write to the Minister.
I will, however, remember the press releases put out by the Minister's spokesperson. It was those inflammatory remarks that originally drove me to put pen to paper and write to the Minister.
With all due respect, gaunty, how have your AVID/ASIC applications gone?
Timely? Efficient? Effective?
On a scale of 1 - 10 will suffice.
Timely? Efficient? Effective?
On a scale of 1 - 10 will suffice.
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Originally Posted by Woomera
CASA Media Release - Friday, 3 March 2006
Pilots: Just click for ASIC help
Pilots who have applied to the Civil Aviation Safety Authority for an Aviation Security Identification Card have a special new way of getting an update on the progress of their application.
An ASIC application page has been set up on the CASA web site to help pilots who have aviation security card questions.
To find out what is happening with their ASIC application lodged with CASA, pilots simply fill in a web form and submit it with the click of their mouse.
The easy-to-use web form will streamline the process of answering ASIC questions from pilots.
Pilots will find using the web form easier than ringing CASA with their ASIC questions.
*snip*
To access the new ASIC application web page go to: www.casa.gov.au/securitycheck
Media contact:
Peter Gibson
mobile 0419 296 446
Ref: MR0609
Pilots: Just click for ASIC help
Pilots who have applied to the Civil Aviation Safety Authority for an Aviation Security Identification Card have a special new way of getting an update on the progress of their application.
An ASIC application page has been set up on the CASA web site to help pilots who have aviation security card questions.
To find out what is happening with their ASIC application lodged with CASA, pilots simply fill in a web form and submit it with the click of their mouse.
The easy-to-use web form will streamline the process of answering ASIC questions from pilots.
Pilots will find using the web form easier than ringing CASA with their ASIC questions.
*snip*
To access the new ASIC application web page go to: www.casa.gov.au/securitycheck
Media contact:
Peter Gibson
mobile 0419 296 446
Ref: MR0609
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this is the address you want to go to check your status: http://www.casa.gov.au/fcl/licence/status.htm
i sent in my details on friday and still haven't heard back
i sent in my details on friday and still haven't heard back
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Just out of interest, how do we get on after the deadline, if our ASIC hasn't shown up.
I applied in October last year for a photo licence and an ASIC at the same time. After about 6 weeks the photo licence turned up, then a refund cheque of $52.00 because I had paid twice for the background checks.
I rang up a couple of weeks ago and was told it was with Qantas (I imagine not to get airfreighted) and should get it soon. Then did the internet thing yesterday after reading Gaunty's post, and so far have not had a response.
So what happens after the deadline if still no ASIC. I fly in the bush predominantly and usually to security controlled airports that have only one or two RPT flights a week, except my home base where we get one a day. Usually only roos or emus about when I land. So who will arrest or shoot us?? Buggered if I am going to stop going where I have to due to no ASIC.
Who are the enforcers???? The Police, DOTARS, Airport Managers, Council reps .. Who do I have to look out for?
I applied in October last year for a photo licence and an ASIC at the same time. After about 6 weeks the photo licence turned up, then a refund cheque of $52.00 because I had paid twice for the background checks.
I rang up a couple of weeks ago and was told it was with Qantas (I imagine not to get airfreighted) and should get it soon. Then did the internet thing yesterday after reading Gaunty's post, and so far have not had a response.
So what happens after the deadline if still no ASIC. I fly in the bush predominantly and usually to security controlled airports that have only one or two RPT flights a week, except my home base where we get one a day. Usually only roos or emus about when I land. So who will arrest or shoot us?? Buggered if I am going to stop going where I have to due to no ASIC.
Who are the enforcers???? The Police, DOTARS, Airport Managers, Council reps .. Who do I have to look out for?
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Originally Posted by BEACH KING
I rang up a couple of weeks ago and was told it was with Qantas (I imagine not to get airfreighted) and should get it soon. Then did the internet thing yesterday after reading Gaunty's post, and so far have not had a response.
Originally Posted by get_over_it
i sent in my details on friday and still haven't heard back
Originally Posted by CASA
Pilots will find using the web form easier than ringing CASA with their ASIC questions.
.... 23 days to go.BD
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They haven't quite got this "User Pays" thing hammered out yet, have they?
They should have provided a 1902 number to which queries could be SMS'd.
Then they could be earning $5 per message and still choose to ignore them.
BD
They should have provided a 1902 number to which queries could be SMS'd.
Then they could be earning $5 per message and still choose to ignore them.
BD
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Originally Posted by BD1959
Wonder what CASA's definition of "easier" is .... 23 days to go.
BD
.... 23 days to go.BD
Stuff em' I'm going to ring every day from now until I get my ASIC/PPL.
The deadline will be extended you can smell it in the air !
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