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Old 24th Jun 2005, 08:44
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Australian Flying Magazine

Am I seeing things?

Have a look at the photo of the PA28 on the front cover of the latest Australian Flying mag and tell me that the oil filler cover on top of the engine cowling isn't open.

Looks like the pilot in question didn't complete his pre-flight checks properly?

Australian Flying probably needs to take more care as to what photos they use to promote their mag, or was it an exercise by them to test all of us to see how alert we all are?

I've passed, anway.
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I am glad you reminded me...I purchased May/Junes Australian Flying and was stunned by a few techiques esposed in Phelans article on the P68C I was motivated to email Oz Flying and express my utter dismay!

Off to do same right now.
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Any chance of someone posting the picture? Cant seem to find it online.
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Old 25th Jun 2005, 06:29
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Picture

NZLD - it's at www.isubscribe.com.au - a bit small though. Can't see the oil filler cover much. See how you go.



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Also Check out the story on the Morrison brothers, 2 pictures clearly described as a "chieftan", when they are in fact pictures of the inside and outside of a "metro"!!
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Oh good, then I wasn't seeing things...
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Morrison bros.

It's either a F#@K up in the editing or they think none of us read this every now and then.

I also thought that the latest issue of Flight Safety had a porn pics on the bottom left hand side of the front cover at first glance.

It even said " Are you getting enough ? "... I thought damn, I never thought sex would be a part of a avmed discussion.


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Old 26th Jun 2005, 12:35
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Have a look at the photo of the PA28 on the front cover of the latest Australian Flying mag and tell me that the oil filler cover on top of the engine cowling isn't open.

Looks like the pilot in question didn't complete his pre-flight checks properly?
Yes it is open and....does it really matter? Probably just a worn out spring that's popped open....that's life!
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Old 26th Jun 2005, 14:04
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A "worn out spring" or a "worn out" pilot?

...or a 'worn out' editor?...did someone just say "a worn out magazine?"[

Hey folks, remember this is GA... "the aeroplane is just like that...it is just the way it is "
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Unhappy Metro or Cheftain!

I bought AF on the weekend. I looked and looked at those pictures on the Morrison article.

I thought when did a Cheiftain look like that?

Doesn't do much for the credibility of AF mag to do this sort of thing.

Hope they respond next issue with an explaination for the above and the front cover pic.

Has anyone emailed them?
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Old 27th Jun 2005, 01:34
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........Whinging wouldbees

What a mob of whinging bastards, you lot need to get a life
If you don't like what you see, just don't buy it, that simple.
It's obvious you lot know what your talking about, what was the name of the mag you lot put out?
I find Aus Aviation a good read, the last page first usually.
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Old 27th Jun 2005, 03:37
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Hear Hear CC, Probably a bit of the reason that if we don't get our act together in GA and support each other and aviation good times including Aust flying, we will all be flying 'glass sardine tubes with skidoo donks soon. Youse can all get stuffed, I find it very enjoyable as well as the yank version too!
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I remember a time when I could afford the yank version...
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Old 27th Jun 2005, 23:45
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Thanks DeltaSix got it.
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Professionalism

It's not a matter of winging or nit picking. We are talking about a professional aviation magazine.

Don't we have the right to expect acceptable standards of professionalism for these journalists. After all, this is their vocation and the editor should maintain high standards to ensure information is accurate.

I am a nurse and I am sure you would expect me to give you accurate and reliable information about your condition, treatment and progress. Saying that you enjoy talking to me or like me as a person doesn't quite cut it does it? If I were to hurt you or harm you by messing up my job would be unacceptable.

As aviators we can also expect high standards of professionalism from aviation jounalists without being labelled as wingers, can we not?
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Give it a break!

AF is a magazine which features a range of subject matter, not necessarily written by journos,or even professional pilots.

If you want absolute accuracy, go to AIP, CAR's and CAO's, and the relevant POH's.

AF suffers no more, or less, 'errors' than does AA, AOPA, RAA or SAAA publications. Or,for that matter,any OS publicns.

Humans are fallible, and mistakes happen. Caveat emptor

AF is good value when you compare it to any other mag - Oz or OS.

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Yes it is open and....does it really matter? Probably just a worn out spring that's popped open....that's life!
Exactly - I had one pop open just after takeoff for this reason. It was hinged on the side so a kick of the rudder shut it. Hardly an inflight emergency... (I was only a student too back then)
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Old 30th Jun 2005, 07:38
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Oil filler caps

Just a tip to make sure it is fastened, give it a thump around the sides 3-4 times and if it is loose, it will pop open.


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Just saw the Morrison brothers Metro story, almost as laughable as Phelan's article supporting NAS/Dick-space from last year.
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Old 3rd Jul 2005, 15:38
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Have been a subscriber since AV 2003 and enjoy it & consider it a valuable resource as my SPL continues, (ccts, more ccts).

As to comments like:
As aviators we can also expect high standards of professionalism...
I would say FROG CRAP, you are taking yourself too seriously. I read Wheels (I don't, cars are dull, but its an example,) but don't expect learned engineering from, erm, engineers or driving articles by Shoomakker, Chowmaeker, erm, that boring Kraut bastard. From either I want stuff that's interesting, makes you think about what you are doing and explains how to get out there and have fun.

I do not expect high standards of professionalism, I demand reasonable levels of amateurism from myself, and I'm proud of it. Jim's article helped me overcome my checklist phobia changing from a C150 to P28A. Instead of memorising pages of obtusely different stuff I've just included L/R fuel tank and booster pumps in the same checklist I used in the C150 and tried to use CDF. I look pointedly at the panel and say 'gear up & locked', but grit my teeth and don't check the bomb doors. Thanks Jim.

On the other hand, that Phelan boxhead's rant on the 'enraged mumbling' page might give CC a woody but it sounds tired, whiney & second-hand to me. Does the man have anything positive to say about anything?
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