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A thread where ex PNG geriatrics lapuns and long longs can live in the dim distant past.
Where tall stories are accepted as fact. War stories are applauded. Grab a Brownie, pull up a story and join in a trip down memory lane!!! 
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“The Missionary Aviation Fellowship used push/pull Cessnas, the front engine providing 40% of the power and the rear 60%.
CAN YOU TAILWHEEL PLEASE OBLIGE ? . . .. THIS LUDDITE
CAN'T SEEM TO PUT IT IN RIGHT (the pic of the crippled GKI)
http://asopa.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834...782c970c-800wi
I can certainly oblige!
Photo: TAL Cessna Gulf Kilo India the worse for wear after losing its undercarriage on landing. Facing the camera is police inspector Graham Breman and looking ruefully at his aircraft is pilot Garry Honour.
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CAN'T SEEM TO PUT IT IN RIGHT (the pic of the crippled GKI)
http://asopa.typepad.com/.a/6a00d834...782c970c-800wi
I can certainly oblige!
Photo: TAL Cessna Gulf Kilo India the worse for wear after losing its undercarriage on landing. Facing the camera is police inspector Graham Breman and looking ruefully at his aircraft is pilot Garry Honour.
Tail Wheel
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Garry Honour did not fly for Qantas. He flew for TAA, Air Niugini and Singapore Airlines. He may have done his B707 training with Qantas, but was never employed by Qantas.
Silly Old Git
Keith Jackson's piece needs a ruler under it in several places, but it sets the scene.
The girls needing a half 44 gallon drum loaded with piss on board before they could be coaxed anywhere rings true enough.
The girls needing a half 44 gallon drum loaded with piss on board before they could be coaxed anywhere rings true enough.
Looking at that pic of Garry's C180 with a leg ripped off immediately brings to mind another one that appeared in the WEST AUSTRALIAN newspaper in Perth in 1965 or 66.
Similarly, it showed an RFDS C180 that had a come to grief on a runway at Jandakot. At the time the C180s of the Western Division had had the castoring crosswind gear fitted, a bit tricky till you got the hang of them.
The pilot on this occasion was not a regular, but a DCA airworthiness bloke, name of Bill Scott, if I remember rightly. The RFDS over there at the time had some kind of arrangement whereby suitably qualified people could act as
volunteer reservists, able to be called out when the roster was stretched to its limit.
A graphic news pic. Just like the one in the Sydney DAILY TELEGRAGH of the Ryan STM of Dick Sims (VH-RSY) tipped on it's nose at Bankstown on the occasion of Dick's first landing in the type for yonks, if ever. The LAME who had worked on her for months, WA, was in the foreground of the photo, caught at the moment of rubbing his fingers through his hair. In despair.
Silly Old Git
Pretty sure it was Gary had a crankshaft snap in a 185 going into Chimbu.
He had the thing hurling around with the rear cylinders sparking and firing then catching on the front part of the crank connected to the prop.Well thats what remember someone will say i got it arse about.
Any way it got our man into Chimbu.
Gary was a well known teetotaler but I sure would have felt like a small tincture after that
He had the thing hurling around with the rear cylinders sparking and firing then catching on the front part of the crank connected to the prop.Well thats what remember someone will say i got it arse about.
Any way it got our man into Chimbu.
Gary was a well known teetotaler but I sure would have felt like a small tincture after that
Near Jacksons there was a bar where a good cross section of the ex-pat community would cram in for a drink after work, known as 'The Snakepit'. A doctor who enjoyed the company there was part Maori, name of Tony. One time there a blue Bonds athletic singlet wearing labourer (Ron says from Parks and Larks) came up to Tony and said gees doc what can I do about this blasted prickly heat? Tony says listen I've had enough of you bludgers always after a free consultation. Put your quid on the bar and then I'll tell you. Bloke does that then looks Tony in the eye,. .. . well doc what about it? Tony, pocketing the note says -
Scratch it. Just like I do.
(Ron ended up a 747 skipper, retiring in '79. Told many a ripping yarn, into the tape recorder. Transcript avbl.)
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In the 60s it was a game white man that drank in the Snakepit. The firehoses were used to clear out the drunks at closing time.........
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In the 60s it was a game white man that drank in the Snakepit
I lived in the bottom pub for three weeks in '68, along with a bunch of other Admin recruits.
The lounge room was above the passage from the snakepit to the street (on the RHS of the photo) and we could hear the screams and running as the more sober ones escaped.
Transferred to Madang which was very peaceful and safe - in those days, before the highway came down.
Thanks for the photo, Descol - memories.
The lounge room was above the passage from the snakepit to the street (on the RHS of the photo) and we could hear the screams and running as the more sober ones escaped.
Transferred to Madang which was very peaceful and safe - in those days, before the highway came down.
Thanks for the photo, Descol - memories.
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Pilatus PC6 piston Porter2
Mr Tailwheel,
Finally worked out how to post on this site - so here we go again.
Am seeking images & historical data on the one & only Pilatus PC6 piston Porter c/n 660, VH-UIC operated by Wirui Air Services for the Catholic Mission of the Divine Word up in the Sepik (Wewak/Vanimo) for about two years from April 1972. Have now got sketchy details of its subsequent life and demise, but then it's all a mystery. Might have gone to West Irian, as I have a pic of one at Sentani.
If anyone out there knows anything, please email me on:
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Thanks.
Ben
Finally worked out how to post on this site - so here we go again.
Am seeking images & historical data on the one & only Pilatus PC6 piston Porter c/n 660, VH-UIC operated by Wirui Air Services for the Catholic Mission of the Divine Word up in the Sepik (Wewak/Vanimo) for about two years from April 1972. Have now got sketchy details of its subsequent life and demise, but then it's all a mystery. Might have gone to West Irian, as I have a pic of one at Sentani.
If anyone out there knows anything, please email me on:
[email protected]
Thanks.
Ben
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I posted on the other History forum:
The engine was a Lycoming IGO-540 I think.
Talair got the piston Porter from the Catholic Mission, Wewak I think. I suspect it was originally gifted to the Catholics - was the piston Porter in West Irian also operated by the Catholic Mission? I'm inclined to think it was a different aircraft.
I seem to recall UIC (which became P2-SE?) was boxed up and shipped to Europe for conversion to turbine power?
Some of the guys here may have better memories?
Tinpis loved the Porter - maybe he flew it???
DCA killed the Porter on Australian registration. It was limited to 4,800 pounds MTOW in Australia; 6,173 pounds MTOW in Europe; and the US military AU-23A could operate with an overload to 7,100 pounds MTOW.
Tinnie - the latest variant is the PC-6 Turbo-Porter B2-H4 with PT6A-34. Standard loading for the PT6A-20 variant was max weight when the coffee bags were stacked to the roof. With a PT6A-34 installed, we could have fitted belly Pods!!!
The piston Porter, less engine, was swapped with Talair for a C206 overhauled engine. The spare Queenair engine was fitted but I think there were cooling problems? I seem to recall it did around 40 hours before the engine was removed and it sat on the strip in Goroka for a very long time. I don't recall exactly what eventually happened to it but I have a feeling it was sold, boxed up and shipped to Europe?
Talair got the piston Porter from the Catholic Mission, Wewak I think. I suspect it was originally gifted to the Catholics - was the piston Porter in West Irian also operated by the Catholic Mission? I'm inclined to think it was a different aircraft.
I seem to recall UIC (which became P2-SE?) was boxed up and shipped to Europe for conversion to turbine power?
Some of the guys here may have better memories?
Tinpis loved the Porter - maybe he flew it???
DCA killed the Porter on Australian registration. It was limited to 4,800 pounds MTOW in Australia; 6,173 pounds MTOW in Europe; and the US military AU-23A could operate with an overload to 7,100 pounds MTOW.
Tinnie - the latest variant is the PC-6 Turbo-Porter B2-H4 with PT6A-34. Standard loading for the PT6A-20 variant was max weight when the coffee bags were stacked to the roof. With a PT6A-34 installed, we could have fitted belly Pods!!!
Piston Porter P2-SEZ
http://www.flickr.com/photos/iantindale/160398513/sizes/l/in/photostream/
from the production list history:
c/n 660 1967 HB-FDB, VH-UIC, P2-UIC, P2-SEZ written off
from the production list history:
c/n 660 1967 HB-FDB, VH-UIC, P2-UIC, P2-SEZ written off
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PC-6.com says it was used to rebuild s/n 551 (Astazou and then PT6 turbine Porter) which matches Tail Wheel's memory.
PC-6 History s/n 660
They also list a dozen or so piston Porters registered to Merpati, including a couple photos of two sitting in the grass at Sentani. Presumably it was one of their Porters in your photo.
Curious about the Australian MTOW. From Pilatus' training material, the H2 variant is 2200 kg (4850 lb) MTOW [and I think 2600 kg MTOW for spraying/water bombing] and the H4 is 2800 kg (6173 lb). Are you saying a B2-H4 only has a 4850 lb MTOW in Australia? Or they just won't allow anyone to operate the H2 overweight?
PC-6 History s/n 660
They also list a dozen or so piston Porters registered to Merpati, including a couple photos of two sitting in the grass at Sentani. Presumably it was one of their Porters in your photo.
Curious about the Australian MTOW. From Pilatus' training material, the H2 variant is 2200 kg (4850 lb) MTOW [and I think 2600 kg MTOW for spraying/water bombing] and the H4 is 2800 kg (6173 lb). Are you saying a B2-H4 only has a 4850 lb MTOW in Australia? Or they just won't allow anyone to operate the H2 overweight?
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A question of the New Guinea hands.
Anyone have any idea when the Salamaua airport closed down?
Dad worked for Burns Philp there for a number of years prior to the war, and on the outbreak remained for the duration, being a member of the NGVR. Mum (to be, they married two years later) worked there for Burns Philp as well, for three months, prior to being evacuated by a Junkers 31. Never been in country, but wouldn't mind a nostalgic trip to Salamaua to see where the family had its beginnings.
Anyone have any idea when the Salamaua airport closed down?
Dad worked for Burns Philp there for a number of years prior to the war, and on the outbreak remained for the duration, being a member of the NGVR. Mum (to be, they married two years later) worked there for Burns Philp as well, for three months, prior to being evacuated by a Junkers 31. Never been in country, but wouldn't mind a nostalgic trip to Salamaua to see where the family had its beginnings.
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Tripacer in Vitiaz Strait
G'Day,
Am new on the block.
I was No. 2 for departure behind this unfortunate PA22 bound for Kavieng, on RW 14 at Lae on that fateful day and was probably the last person to see the occupants up close & alive. I remember that after the accident, one wheel and some other items floated back up and were recovered.
Had a close call at Aseki in a C206, going round when aquaplaning on landing and looking like writing off two aircraft at the same time - the other being SIL's Aztec parked at the top. The tale of that incident appeared in Pacific Flyer August 2010 issue. Can attribute my survival due to the excellent training given to me by Macair's CP Graham Syphers. Thanks heaps Graham.
Cheers.
Ben
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Am new on the block.
I was No. 2 for departure behind this unfortunate PA22 bound for Kavieng, on RW 14 at Lae on that fateful day and was probably the last person to see the occupants up close & alive. I remember that after the accident, one wheel and some other items floated back up and were recovered.
Had a close call at Aseki in a C206, going round when aquaplaning on landing and looking like writing off two aircraft at the same time - the other being SIL's Aztec parked at the top. The tale of that incident appeared in Pacific Flyer August 2010 issue. Can attribute my survival due to the excellent training given to me by Macair's CP Graham Syphers. Thanks heaps Graham.
Cheers.
Ben
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PC-6.com says it was used to rebuild s/n 551 (Astazou and then PT6 turbine Porter) which matches Tail Wheel's memory.
At one stage the undercarriage from the piston Porter was installed in the Talair turbine Porter, after that aircraft was ground looped at a strip in the Chimbu.
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Pilatus piston Porter
The engine on the piston Porter was the six cylinder 340 h.p. supercharged Lycoming GSO-480-B1.
Whilst working in Germany in 1973 I flew the Dornier Do27 & the Focke Wulf P149D, both of which had the normally aspirated Lycoming GO-480-B1, developing 270 h.p.
I also flew that Porter engine in early model Queen Airs but mostly operated late model B65-B80's (RFDS) with the 380 h.p. Lycoming IGSO-540-1AD's.
Cheers.
Ben
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Whilst working in Germany in 1973 I flew the Dornier Do27 & the Focke Wulf P149D, both of which had the normally aspirated Lycoming GO-480-B1, developing 270 h.p.
I also flew that Porter engine in early model Queen Airs but mostly operated late model B65-B80's (RFDS) with the 380 h.p. Lycoming IGSO-540-1AD's.
Cheers.
Ben
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