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A thread where ex PNG geriatrics lapuns and long longs can live in the dim distant past.
Where tall stories are accepted as fact. War stories are applauded. Grab a Brownie, pull up a story and join in a trip down memory lane!!! 
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I knew Capt Sharpe very briefly flying shotgun on an F28 flight between Rabaul and POM and what a gentleman. During the whole trip we conversed about anything and everything aviation. This brief encounter with this little big man was enough to convince me to eventually obtain my wings. RIP Capt.
Request for TALAIR Photos circra 79-83
A few pages back I posted some photos of Talair aircraft.. for the 4 years I was up there I took very few photos unfortunately.
I will be modelling the Bandit, Twotter, Islander and Turbo Porter in Talair colours.
I need reference pictures so that I can finish the models correctly, specifically views from the top so that I can determine:
the colour delineation of Grey, White and Dayglo
the size, style and location of the registration marks (same for underneath)
Also I'd like some help with registrations...
The only Twotter regos I remember with any certainty are RDB and RDE what were the others?
same for BN2 Regos ISA, ISB, ISG (?)......................
Bandit RDL (300th and written off) what were the others?
I hope some-one out here can help
I will be modelling the Bandit, Twotter, Islander and Turbo Porter in Talair colours.
I need reference pictures so that I can finish the models correctly, specifically views from the top so that I can determine:
the colour delineation of Grey, White and Dayglo
the size, style and location of the registration marks (same for underneath)
Also I'd like some help with registrations...
The only Twotter regos I remember with any certainty are RDB and RDE what were the others?
same for BN2 Regos ISA, ISB, ISG (?)......................
Bandit RDL (300th and written off) what were the others?
I hope some-one out here can help
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Request for TALAIR Photos circra 79-83
G'day cac_sabre,
The BN2 of CheeAiir's in your photo (can't place the strip) oli callem CBT, and is that Hans Hammerschmikel hanging under the wing?
Cheers, Bill
The BN2 of CheeAiir's in your photo (can't place the strip) oli callem CBT, and is that Hans Hammerschmikel hanging under the wing?
Cheers, Bill
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Talair Aircraft
Have you checked out Register of Planes in Papua New Guinea (1920's - 1970's) -- You may be able add some details to the PNG fleet details there.
Does anyone have any data and the PNGDF Arava that crashed this week at Menyamya?
Does anyone have any data and the PNGDF Arava that crashed this week at Menyamya?
P2-CBT
Hi Bill,
I dont remember a Hans Hammerwhatsit, I do remember a Marius Ezergailis? or something like that but I dont think thats him cos I cant remember ever flying with him.
I cant remember this pilots name, I do however remember orbiting in a valley north of the Atzeras with at least half of the orbit being in cloud in the climb!
From memory this guy went to fly 737s with Australian Airlines sometime before the big strike,.. after that I dont know.
I dont remember a Hans Hammerwhatsit, I do remember a Marius Ezergailis? or something like that but I dont think thats him cos I cant remember ever flying with him.
I cant remember this pilots name, I do however remember orbiting in a valley north of the Atzeras with at least half of the orbit being in cloud in the climb!
From memory this guy went to fly 737s with Australian Airlines sometime before the big strike,.. after that I dont know.
A Papua New Guinea Defence Force Arava aircraft carrying nine medical staff and relief supplies crashed after landing at Menyamya airstrip in Morobe province yesterday morning, reports The National.
The National
Tue, 22 Sep 2009
PORT MORESBY, PNG --- A Papua New Guinea Defence Force Arava aircraft carrying nine medical staff and relief supplies crashed after landing at Menyamya airstrip in Morobe province yesterday morning, reports The National.
The crew and passengers were unhurt and the relief supplies are safe.
As pilot Major Albert Tagua and co-pilot Lt Nancy Wii approached the airstrip, buzzing the top of the pine trees to the grass runway, they were watched by hundreds of locals including the coordinator of the emergency task force team, Micah Yawing, in freezing conditions.
For many, it was their first sight of the Israeli-built “gas cylinder”, as it is affectionately known by its pilots.
When it touched down about 7am, the locals punched the air shouting, “Welcome Papua New Guinea”.
But their euphoria was short-lived. While slowing down over the next 100m, the three-wheeler’s front landing gear broke. The wheel broke loose and the Arava went into a pelican dance, hurtling for another 20m into the turf.
Major Tagua and Lt Wii said there was no navigational problem. “The landing was smooth, it was structural failure.”
Major Tagua said the plane was assigned to be stationed in Lae to assist in the delivery of relief supplies to dysentery, influenza and cholera-stricken areas of Menyamya and Wasu in Morobe province.
Major Tagua has been flying the Arava and Iroqouis helicopters of the PNGDF for the last 15 years. He was a member of the Green Revolution programme transporting local coffee from remote locations in Simbu and other provinces, and taking the beans to major centres.
The plane was bought in 1982 and has served the PNGDF for last 30 years, with little attention from the Government to undergo major refurbishment, Major Tagua said.
The National
Tue, 22 Sep 2009
PORT MORESBY, PNG --- A Papua New Guinea Defence Force Arava aircraft carrying nine medical staff and relief supplies crashed after landing at Menyamya airstrip in Morobe province yesterday morning, reports The National.
The crew and passengers were unhurt and the relief supplies are safe.
As pilot Major Albert Tagua and co-pilot Lt Nancy Wii approached the airstrip, buzzing the top of the pine trees to the grass runway, they were watched by hundreds of locals including the coordinator of the emergency task force team, Micah Yawing, in freezing conditions.
For many, it was their first sight of the Israeli-built “gas cylinder”, as it is affectionately known by its pilots.
When it touched down about 7am, the locals punched the air shouting, “Welcome Papua New Guinea”.
But their euphoria was short-lived. While slowing down over the next 100m, the three-wheeler’s front landing gear broke. The wheel broke loose and the Arava went into a pelican dance, hurtling for another 20m into the turf.
Major Tagua and Lt Wii said there was no navigational problem. “The landing was smooth, it was structural failure.”
Major Tagua said the plane was assigned to be stationed in Lae to assist in the delivery of relief supplies to dysentery, influenza and cholera-stricken areas of Menyamya and Wasu in Morobe province.
Major Tagua has been flying the Arava and Iroqouis helicopters of the PNGDF for the last 15 years. He was a member of the Green Revolution programme transporting local coffee from remote locations in Simbu and other provinces, and taking the beans to major centres.
The plane was bought in 1982 and has served the PNGDF for last 30 years, with little attention from the Government to undergo major refurbishment, Major Tagua said.
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Thanks cac sabre, Hans was a Dutchman at Lae about 1971 - 73, who went on to fly jets for some airline in Europe I think, I didn't know Marius. When Hans was flying the Islander around he used to leave his list of fares in the C206 which I got by default, and you could count on Hans needing to know how much a Pindiu/Mindik fare was when I was on final at Kasanombe.
cheers, Bill
cheers, Bill
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Hi everyone, just found this group, thought you might like an old story, and maybe someone here could confirm, as a lot of people don't believe me!
Scene is Moresby briefing room on 19/8/67, Hagan Show day. Group of disgruntled pilots as there is that rare 100 ft. of fog over the strip. The tower controller comes down for a coffee, and gets some flack along the lines of " We gotta get to Hagen, when can we go?" What we didn't know was that he had already resigned & was off back to Canada.....
"You really want to go, get in your planes". No-one was going to back down, but we didn't really believe it. He cleared about 15 a/c off with maybe 50 yds RVR. But he did it sensibly, T/O towards the sea, clear T/O, report passing the tower on course. The tower was sticking out of the fog, next one clear after passing it.
The other memory is the switch to HF, Moresby came back "Morning (callsign), time....., QNH...., traffic is - long pause - bugger it, there's about 6 in front of you and 8 behind, they're all going to Hagan, and they're spread out from 8000 to 12000".
And I got a nice photo of a Patair Dc3 as we overtook him, I wasn't game to get too close so I can't read the rego on the photo.
Anyone with a long enough memory?
Scene is Moresby briefing room on 19/8/67, Hagan Show day. Group of disgruntled pilots as there is that rare 100 ft. of fog over the strip. The tower controller comes down for a coffee, and gets some flack along the lines of " We gotta get to Hagen, when can we go?" What we didn't know was that he had already resigned & was off back to Canada.....
"You really want to go, get in your planes". No-one was going to back down, but we didn't really believe it. He cleared about 15 a/c off with maybe 50 yds RVR. But he did it sensibly, T/O towards the sea, clear T/O, report passing the tower on course. The tower was sticking out of the fog, next one clear after passing it.
The other memory is the switch to HF, Moresby came back "Morning (callsign), time....., QNH...., traffic is - long pause - bugger it, there's about 6 in front of you and 8 behind, they're all going to Hagan, and they're spread out from 8000 to 12000".
And I got a nice photo of a Patair Dc3 as we overtook him, I wasn't game to get too close so I can't read the rego on the photo.
Anyone with a long enough memory?
P2 CBT
CBT was my first Islander, with Transnuigini Airways (AKA the Frog) in Moresby 92-93. Might be able to rat out some Pics and post them. Anyway the Frog re registered her T something and painted it silver. Shortly after a National Pilot (John someone, nice bloke) had an engine failure after takeoff. There were no Pax but he was killed and the aircraft written off, A sad end to a nice machine. I had left by then so do not know the details, except a rumour that maybe that engine had been changed by someone who may not have been an engineer.
P2-CBT
It seems CBT is known to many (BT might be bush twokina?)
In 79-82 CBT was with Morobe Airways at Lae. They had another Islander P2-NAM, the word Namasu rings a bell but I cant remember the connection. NAM was a yellow colour until about 81 they painted it the same colour/s as CBT. I think Morobe Airways also had an obligatory C-206 but for the life of me I have no recollection of its identity (if indeed it existed!)
Speaking personalities there were a few pilots and airframes up there who were not associated with any airlines. One of these pilots (of the female persuasion... Captain Nipples) used to strike terror in this ATC's heart with her complete inability to follow any ATC instruction flying a blue and yellow Baron. Another was the Barclays Baron piloted by ... I only remember his nickname "cockinhand", I recall his many and varied IFR holding procedures on the Nadzab VOR presumably whilst climbing to get above cloud.
Jeez I used to hate those crappy rainy no vis days where you'd have aircraft that had been up around Derim Ogeranang etc being unable to return via the 20 mile or Landslide gaps, flying on the North coast until almost at Madang then heading south to the Markham valley hoping to get visual west of Leron Plains then scud dodge to land at Nadzab until the curtain lifted in the afternoon. Ii remember one pilot (in CBT) was trapped at Kisingem or some strip near there ?Wontoat? for about 3 days waiting for the weather to clear. He did not develop a taste for tinpis na ris.
In 79-82 CBT was with Morobe Airways at Lae. They had another Islander P2-NAM, the word Namasu rings a bell but I cant remember the connection. NAM was a yellow colour until about 81 they painted it the same colour/s as CBT. I think Morobe Airways also had an obligatory C-206 but for the life of me I have no recollection of its identity (if indeed it existed!)
Speaking personalities there were a few pilots and airframes up there who were not associated with any airlines. One of these pilots (of the female persuasion... Captain Nipples) used to strike terror in this ATC's heart with her complete inability to follow any ATC instruction flying a blue and yellow Baron. Another was the Barclays Baron piloted by ... I only remember his nickname "cockinhand", I recall his many and varied IFR holding procedures on the Nadzab VOR presumably whilst climbing to get above cloud.
Jeez I used to hate those crappy rainy no vis days where you'd have aircraft that had been up around Derim Ogeranang etc being unable to return via the 20 mile or Landslide gaps, flying on the North coast until almost at Madang then heading south to the Markham valley hoping to get visual west of Leron Plains then scud dodge to land at Nadzab until the curtain lifted in the afternoon. Ii remember one pilot (in CBT) was trapped at Kisingem or some strip near there ?Wontoat? for about 3 days waiting for the weather to clear. He did not develop a taste for tinpis na ris.
COD
Thanks Kev
Wondered if the show was till running in some form. Thats ex COD, former Co Air, Talair machine. Spent some time at Tabubil with Talair I believe where she was known as 'the lead sled' being partial to the ground and close to. But in my time 93/93 she was a good performer, average off the ground but quite fast at 140 tas in the cruise. And some nice IFR type things which i had no idea how to use at the time.
Wondered if the show was till running in some form. Thats ex COD, former Co Air, Talair machine. Spent some time at Tabubil with Talair I believe where she was known as 'the lead sled' being partial to the ground and close to. But in my time 93/93 she was a good performer, average off the ground but quite fast at 140 tas in the cruise. And some nice IFR type things which i had no idea how to use at the time.
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Cac-sabre, the baron driver you think of was one Brian Hancock... i recall those IFR stories.
I like the photo of Chimbu, I lived in the flat above the traffic office for 6 months in 1980 flying P2 -IST on Karamui, Bomais etc.. Had the pleasure of running into Lyndell Shelley at the Talair reunion a few years ago. She was the Chimbu station manager, her husband owned an earth moving company.
Lead sled... I remember that name given to the C207 I flew in Daru P2 - SED, it was a grossly underpowered aircraft that struggled at sea level so was never allowed into the highlands. I think Talairt had 2 x C207's, what ever happened to those machines?
I like the photo of Chimbu, I lived in the flat above the traffic office for 6 months in 1980 flying P2 -IST on Karamui, Bomais etc.. Had the pleasure of running into Lyndell Shelley at the Talair reunion a few years ago. She was the Chimbu station manager, her husband owned an earth moving company.
Lead sled... I remember that name given to the C207 I flew in Daru P2 - SED, it was a grossly underpowered aircraft that struggled at sea level so was never allowed into the highlands. I think Talairt had 2 x C207's, what ever happened to those machines?