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A thread where ex PNG geriatrics lapuns and long longs can live in the dim distant past.
Where tall stories are accepted as fact. War stories are applauded. Grab a Brownie, pull up a story and join in a trip down memory lane!!! 
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PNG Ples Bilong Tok Tok
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Crowleys/Panga had a 207 P2-DMS working the Huon pennisular hills out of Lae in the mid 70's - much hated by the crew there.
As said, okay from sea level strips but ground hugging in the hot and high.
I had it briefly in Hoskins but refused to do the Bali/Witu sectors! Perhaps that's why they took it back........
Crowleys/Panga had a 207 P2-DMS working the Huon pennisular hills out of Lae in the mid 70's - much hated by the crew there.
As said, okay from sea level strips but ground hugging in the hot and high.
I had it briefly in Hoskins but refused to do the Bali/Witu sectors! Perhaps that's why they took it back........
Crowley sent me over to Bougainville with it and enjoyed flying it, even into places like Sabah [1600'] near Inus.
Back in Lae it was used a lot for helicopter crew changes and coming back to Lae from places like Kiunga high using oxygen made it easier.
Wasn't hated by the crews then but we probably didn't know any better as there were a couple of C205s and good old CSF then.
Any refusal to do any sector with it would have meant a ticket south when Laurie or the chief pilot was around...
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TAL's 207's
Hi. I got young Dick wombroom to check the data for me, no mention of Morrie Lean. Morrie did have a commercial in my day and did fly the odd delivery flight for TAL.
Anyway, for the record. Gus's effort was on 22 August 2003, 5 pax nil injury. Aircraft GKT.
Cheers,
Looie.
Anyway, for the record. Gus's effort was on 22 August 2003, 5 pax nil injury. Aircraft GKT.
Cheers,
Looie.
GKT
Anyway, for the record. Gus's effort was on 22 August 2003, 5 pax nil injury. Aircraft GKT.
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Gkt 2003!
Chimbu,
I should have suspected that you would be the first to detect and advise of that deliberate error!
You are absolutely correct the incident did occur on 22 August 1973.
I should have suspected that you would be the first to detect and advise of that deliberate error!
You are absolutely correct the incident did occur on 22 August 1973.
Silly Old Git
Maurie did have a license and somtimes would ferry to GKA for 100hourly and take the missus shopping
Dont ever recall an incident
Maurie was a fine bloke consideriing what he had to put up with
Dont ever recall an incident
Maurie was a fine bloke consideriing what he had to put up with
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And so it goes.....
From Today's Post Courier; it's getting worse!
Many airports in PNG may be closed: CAA
By TODAGIA KELOLA
Many airports in the country would be forced to close if the National Government failed to fund the urgent maintenance and
certification of airports and airways systems.
Chief executive officer and director of Civil Aviation Authority Joseph Kintau issued this warning at the weekend.
The threat if taken will seriously affect many travelling public especially areas where the only link to the outside world is with
air transport
“Safety issues with CAA are not new. These issues have been on successive governments’ agendas, even before the inception of the CAA
act in 2001. We are talking about facilities that were in place for more than 30 years. Most of these facilities have fallen into
disrepair; the only option is to replace them,” Mr Kintau said.
The problems according to Mr Kintau had been communicated to the National Government to ensure that adequate funding was provided.
In an interview with the Post-Courier, Mr Kintau said CAA was moving and transforming but the organisation badly needed initial help
from the Government
“I am disappointed that airports and airstrip maintenance and development program received nil funding from the 2007, 2008 and 2009
budget allocations.
“The road system receives adequate funding, but for some reason, the same priority is not given to air navigation and airports
infrastructure. Year after year, since 2004, CAA has been submitting comprehensive work plans for maintenance and development of
airport infrastructure but to no avail.
“I have informed the Treasury and Planning departments about the safety and risk issues facing CAA’s operations, prior to the 2009
budget but nothing was allocated in 2009
“They obviously are not taking these risks seriously. We are talking about lives and an attitude that completely ignores the
seriousness of the matter reflects how much we care about human lives, let alone our reputation as a contracting state with the
International Civil Aviation Organisation,” he said.
Meanwhile Mr Kintau admitted that there was an incident at Nadzab airport on Wednesday last week.
By TODAGIA KELOLA
Many airports in the country would be forced to close if the National Government failed to fund the urgent maintenance and
certification of airports and airways systems.
Chief executive officer and director of Civil Aviation Authority Joseph Kintau issued this warning at the weekend.
The threat if taken will seriously affect many travelling public especially areas where the only link to the outside world is with
air transport
“Safety issues with CAA are not new. These issues have been on successive governments’ agendas, even before the inception of the CAA
act in 2001. We are talking about facilities that were in place for more than 30 years. Most of these facilities have fallen into
disrepair; the only option is to replace them,” Mr Kintau said.
The problems according to Mr Kintau had been communicated to the National Government to ensure that adequate funding was provided.
In an interview with the Post-Courier, Mr Kintau said CAA was moving and transforming but the organisation badly needed initial help
from the Government
“I am disappointed that airports and airstrip maintenance and development program received nil funding from the 2007, 2008 and 2009
budget allocations.
“The road system receives adequate funding, but for some reason, the same priority is not given to air navigation and airports
infrastructure. Year after year, since 2004, CAA has been submitting comprehensive work plans for maintenance and development of
airport infrastructure but to no avail.
“I have informed the Treasury and Planning departments about the safety and risk issues facing CAA’s operations, prior to the 2009
budget but nothing was allocated in 2009
“They obviously are not taking these risks seriously. We are talking about lives and an attitude that completely ignores the
seriousness of the matter reflects how much we care about human lives, let alone our reputation as a contracting state with the
International Civil Aviation Organisation,” he said.
Meanwhile Mr Kintau admitted that there was an incident at Nadzab airport on Wednesday last week.
for the second time in recent years 
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Wewak and the Chief.
Well, seeing as PX has as MLO a Chief in his own right and who hails from Wewak, operators and passengers may see an upgrade.(move the eastern end golf course for runway extension-planned and surveyed years ago!)
Silly Old Git
Wheres that bloody balus?
Thank christ!
circuit area Samarai..over..
fancy a cold Greenie at the Cesspitt?
Peter Lovell pix Ex Kiap - past Papua New Guinea Patrol Officers - PNG Past and Present
Thank christ!
circuit area Samarai..over..
fancy a cold Greenie at the Cesspitt?
Peter Lovell pix Ex Kiap - past Papua New Guinea Patrol Officers - PNG Past and Present
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Silly Old Git
For would be captains
Beats me what he said to get everyone lathered up?
SHIPMASTER REPLACED OVER RACIAL COMMENTS by Peter Miva (The National 29/1/02)
AN EXPATRIATE shipmaster was immediately replaced by his Sydney employer in light of allegations of discriminatory comments made against his mostly Papua New Guinean crewmen, shipping agents and terminal despatch officers over the weekend. The comments were contained in a fax allegedly sent by the captain, named, to his employer Dilmun Navigation PNG Ltd head office in Sydney. The fax was apparently picked up by a crewman, of which copies were obtained by the PNG Maritime Workers Industrial Union, The National, the PNG Maritime College and the Foreign Affairs Department. The contents of the fax included these paragraphs:
“One is almost daily surrounded by idiots of all types. The PNG crews up here are nowhere near what I would call seamen, as compared to Fiji. “Unreliable, useless, lazy and stupid agents are the rule, not the exception. Of the PNG officers, there appears to me to be only 1 second mate, of whom I am confident in. The rest have to be watched. “No amount of training will change this - you cannot put in what God has left out. The PNG officers Certificate of Competency, to me, at least, appears to come out of a Corn Flake packet. “We have TDO’s (terminal dispatch officers, mostly Mobil employees) a position of great responsibility ashore, filled by people who have little idea of what they should be doing, or how to achieve it. “One becomes very frustrated at times, and wearies of dealing with idiots. “Social life is practically non-existent ashore. PNG has an international reputation for rape, robbery, and murder. “You have to be either very brave, or very stupid, to set foot ashore anywhere in this country at nite. Even daytime in Port Moresby is not considered safe-the international diplomatic community has cited several attacks on staff, in daylight, in the past 12 months. Lae is getting worse -2 crew members of this vessel have been attacked and robbed ashore whilst going home. There are still no taxis in Lae. “A female tourist was killed recently on a Morobe Tours mini-bus that was held up coming from the airport to a Lae Hotel. Apart from shopping for the ship in Lae, I will not set foot ashore anywhere in this country. I have no wish for my grave headstone to read I was killed in the last place God made. “Competent medical facilities ashore are nearly non-existent. A PNG medical degree is not accepted in Aus/NZ. 20 years ago, it was. “Mobile phones are almost non-existent, public telephones are vandalised. Communications are even more difficult, as the phone towers are pulled down by villagers who haven’t been getting the rent for the land used. You quite often can’t get through. “The Fiji officers are financially reluctant to come up here, as they have to pay nearly 20% more tax, than in Fiji. “They cannot claim anything like the tax deductions for spouses, children, that they can in Fiji. Technical help from ashore is almost non-existent. Pacrovers main radar was r/s for nearly 8 months and when I was on Petnav, we had to pack a radar up, complete, for repair in Aust. “All of it adds up leaving one very depressed, and a dedicated calendar-watcher (how soon until I get-out-of-here syndrome). “Please do not consider the above as a diatribe of complaints. I do so in a genuine attempt to describe conditions. If someone wishes to throw rocks - I have twice volunteered to do tours up here, and will continue to do so. “I firmly believe in taking my turn in this third world toilet of a country. ”The captain’s comments drew the ire of the PNG Maritime Workers Industrial Union, Mobil Oil, the PNG Maritime College, and Steamships Trading, the Lae agent for Dilmun Navigation (PNG) Ltd who were attempting deportation procedures against him until Dilmun defused the situation by immediately replacing him with a Fijian captain at the weekend. The replaced captain had been in the country for only nine weeks.
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Beats me what he said to get everyone lathered up?
SHIPMASTER REPLACED OVER RACIAL COMMENTS by Peter Miva (The National 29/1/02)
AN EXPATRIATE shipmaster was immediately replaced by his Sydney employer in light of allegations of discriminatory comments made against his mostly Papua New Guinean crewmen, shipping agents and terminal despatch officers over the weekend. The comments were contained in a fax allegedly sent by the captain, named, to his employer Dilmun Navigation PNG Ltd head office in Sydney. The fax was apparently picked up by a crewman, of which copies were obtained by the PNG Maritime Workers Industrial Union, The National, the PNG Maritime College and the Foreign Affairs Department. The contents of the fax included these paragraphs:
“One is almost daily surrounded by idiots of all types. The PNG crews up here are nowhere near what I would call seamen, as compared to Fiji. “Unreliable, useless, lazy and stupid agents are the rule, not the exception. Of the PNG officers, there appears to me to be only 1 second mate, of whom I am confident in. The rest have to be watched. “No amount of training will change this - you cannot put in what God has left out. The PNG officers Certificate of Competency, to me, at least, appears to come out of a Corn Flake packet. “We have TDO’s (terminal dispatch officers, mostly Mobil employees) a position of great responsibility ashore, filled by people who have little idea of what they should be doing, or how to achieve it. “One becomes very frustrated at times, and wearies of dealing with idiots. “Social life is practically non-existent ashore. PNG has an international reputation for rape, robbery, and murder. “You have to be either very brave, or very stupid, to set foot ashore anywhere in this country at nite. Even daytime in Port Moresby is not considered safe-the international diplomatic community has cited several attacks on staff, in daylight, in the past 12 months. Lae is getting worse -2 crew members of this vessel have been attacked and robbed ashore whilst going home. There are still no taxis in Lae. “A female tourist was killed recently on a Morobe Tours mini-bus that was held up coming from the airport to a Lae Hotel. Apart from shopping for the ship in Lae, I will not set foot ashore anywhere in this country. I have no wish for my grave headstone to read I was killed in the last place God made. “Competent medical facilities ashore are nearly non-existent. A PNG medical degree is not accepted in Aus/NZ. 20 years ago, it was. “Mobile phones are almost non-existent, public telephones are vandalised. Communications are even more difficult, as the phone towers are pulled down by villagers who haven’t been getting the rent for the land used. You quite often can’t get through. “The Fiji officers are financially reluctant to come up here, as they have to pay nearly 20% more tax, than in Fiji. “They cannot claim anything like the tax deductions for spouses, children, that they can in Fiji. Technical help from ashore is almost non-existent. Pacrovers main radar was r/s for nearly 8 months and when I was on Petnav, we had to pack a radar up, complete, for repair in Aust. “All of it adds up leaving one very depressed, and a dedicated calendar-watcher (how soon until I get-out-of-here syndrome). “Please do not consider the above as a diatribe of complaints. I do so in a genuine attempt to describe conditions. If someone wishes to throw rocks - I have twice volunteered to do tours up here, and will continue to do so. “I firmly believe in taking my turn in this third world toilet of a country. ”The captain’s comments drew the ire of the PNG Maritime Workers Industrial Union, Mobil Oil, the PNG Maritime College, and Steamships Trading, the Lae agent for Dilmun Navigation (PNG) Ltd who were attempting deportation procedures against him until Dilmun defused the situation by immediately replacing him with a Fijian captain at the weekend. The replaced captain had been in the country for only nine weeks.
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Come on lads, let us be not too harsh on the country that gave you quite a good life, maybe better than your home country at that time, and as well a really great experience in first class 'stick and rudder' work that should stay with you for the rest of your flying career.
kia ora.
kia ora.