EASA to FAA, which ATP variant?
Hello Gents and Ladies of this great forum,
I am a European citizen with a UK CAA issued ATPL, 6700TT 5000+ A320 with 2700 PIC on the A320. I currently fly for a LoCo here in Europe. Due to family reasons I would like to emigrate to the USA, I'm not too interested in the green card aspect of the process but the licence part. I know I would have to convert my UK ATPL to FAA ATP and I believe the process is as follows. 1) Licence verification from UK CAA so they can release info to FAA. 2) Licence verification to provide FAA Private SE VFR 3) FAA ATP CTP Course 4) FAA ATP Knowledge Test 5) ATP Checkride. I have a few questions: -Being type rated on the A320, is there a way to obtain the 320 Type Rating on my FAA licence without having to go through a full TR? -Should the former not be possible, and provided I wanted to get employed by a regional in the US, which ATP checkride should I go for? MEIR or SEIR? SEIR is cheaper. -Does having an ATP with a SEIR affect hiring in regionals? Do you require a MEIR to start a type rating in a regional jet? I would appreciate any info you may have, thank you very much for your time. -Polo |
Polo,
Since you mentioned regionals, have you considered directly contacting those regionals that take Aussies (and are familiar with training/processing someone with a non-FAA license) to see if they might be willing to take you in without an FAA license ? This won't get you the A320 type rating on the FAA ATPL but would save you a boatload of money and hassle. Probably a long shot but it's free and easy to write and ask. Either way, good luck. |
I wouldn’t even bother with the ASEL ATP. The regionals will take you with a multi engine commercial or ATP (AMEL, airplane multi engine land). It would probably cost you less to do the commercial since you would not have to spend money on the ATP-CTP course. The regionals all have their own courses for that and they include it in their training. Some airlines have hired Australians and have been able to hire them without any FAA certificates and they get issued the ATP when they finish their training. The airlines that hired Australians have been SkyWest, Mesa, Piedmont, Expressjet, Commutair, Gojet, and TSA. |
There is also a TSA background check separate from the license verification. Step #2 is not required. If you do step 2 you will get a 61.75 FAA certificate that says Private Pilot Single and Multi-engine Land (assuming that's what's on your CAA license) A320 VFR ONLY. If you can show the instructor who instructed you for your CAA 320 type held a FAA CFI certificate then when you get a regular FAA certificate the 320 type can be transferred. Otherwise there's no way to transfer it. You can skip step 2 because you are eligible for a regular FAA ATP as the holder of a foreign ATP. Looking at a few Regional hiring pages some want a ME Commercial or ATP some only want 50 MEL. And in the FAA system the ATP is just a fancy IR so adding that to the name of the ATP is redundant.
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
(Post 10523051)
Some airlines have hired Australians and have been able to hire them without any FAA certificates and they get issued the ATP when they finish their training. The airlines that hired Australians have been SkyWest, Mesa, Piedmont, Expressjet, Commutair, Gojet, and TSA.
aviator35 had a similar situation but I'm not sure how it turned out for him. |
You did not mention in your opening post if you have the rights to work in the US or not, if not then scrap doing anything as it will be useless unless there is a way you can get a green card via family or have US permanent citizenship...
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Originally Posted by BAe 146-100
(Post 10523731)
You did not mention in your opening post if you have the rights to work in the US or not...
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Originally Posted by bafanguy
(Post 10523462)
It would be interesting to hear if any regional has taken non-Aussie pilots (who already had the immigration issue settled with no airline assistance) without FAA tickets. There are probably more than a few people who'd be interested in this issue.
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Originally Posted by flyboyike
(Post 10524972)
...but my airline seems to be emptying Avianca of anyone with American paperwork.
What is American paperwork ? FAA licenses or legal ability to work in the US...or both ? |
Originally Posted by Polorutz
(Post 10522680)
Hello Gents and Ladies of this great forum,
I am a European citizen with a UK CAA issued ATPL, 6700TT 5000+ A320 with 2700 PIC on the A320. I currently fly for a LoCo here in Europe. Due to family reasons I would like to emigrate to the USA, I'm not too interested in the green card aspect of the process but the licence part. I know I would have to convert my UK ATPL to FAA ATP and I believe the process is as follows. 1) Licence verification from UK CAA so they can release info to FAA. 2) Licence verification to provide FAA Private SE VFR 3) FAA ATP CTP Course 4) FAA ATP Knowledge Test 5) ATP Checkride. I have a few questions: -Being type rated on the A320, is there a way to obtain the 320 Type Rating on my FAA licence without having to go through a full TR? -Should the former not be possible, and provided I wanted to get employed by a regional in the US, which ATP checkride should I go for? MEIR or SEIR? SEIR is cheaper. -Does having an ATP with a SEIR affect hiring in regionals? Do you require a MEIR to start a type rating in a regional jet? I would appreciate any info you may have, thank you very much for your time. -Polo All the best! |
Originally Posted by Sunrig
(Post 10525447)
If you consider the Regionals, you could only apply with your written ATP.
Lots of ways to do this. |
By the way do you have a 4-year Bachelors degree? That would be very important if you want to move up the ladder. All the best!
Does Spirit, Allegiant or Jetblue require a degree? |
Originally Posted by Polorutz
(Post 10526053)
Does Spirit, Allegiant or Jetblue require a degree?
However, seeing the degree listed as preferred isn't necessarily a green light to it not being a factor. The question becomes how much of the competition for the job DO have a 4-year degree. It's possible for preferred to become a de facto required. Whether this will change in the future is anyone's guess. |
Originally Posted by bafanguy
(Post 10526072)
Spirit and Allegiant list the degree as preferred. Couldn't find the Jetblue requirements.
However, seeing the degree listed as preferred isn't necessarily a green light to it not being a factor. The question becomes how much of the competition for the job DO have a 4-year degree. It's possible for preferred to become a de facto required. Whether this will change in the future is anyone's guess. |
Originally Posted by bafanguy
(Post 10524992)
fbi,
What is American paperwork ? FAA licenses or legal ability to work in the US...or both ? |
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