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sigler 24th Mar 2019 21:10

Question for green card holders
 
Almost everyone who gets a green card goes through the adjustment of status phase towards the end of the process. At some point during AOS, you get an Employment Authorization Document (EAD), which gives you the right to work in the US but is not yet the final permanent residency document. My question is, do US airlines hire pilots with an EAD or do they make you wait until your green card process is 100% finished?

havick 25th Mar 2019 01:37


Originally Posted by sigler (Post 10428716)
Almost everyone who gets a green card goes through the adjustment of status phase towards the end of the process. At some point during AOS, you get an Employment Authorization Document (EAD), which gives you the right to work in the US but is not yet the final permanent residency document. My question is, do US airlines hire pilots with an EAD or do they make you wait until your green card process is 100% finished?

An EAD allows you to work in the US and there should be no discrimination between an EAD and a green card. That being said you can’t leave the USA until you have your green card as USCIS would consist you to have abandoned your application if you leave without advanced parole.

Airlines really don’t understand anything other than a green card so I doubt you will have much luck without it.

sigler 25th Mar 2019 01:56


Originally Posted by havick (Post 10428872)


An EAD allows you to work in the US and there should be no discrimination between an EAD and a green card. That being said you can’t leave the USA until you have your green card as USCIS would consist you to have abandoned your application if you leave without advanced parole.

Airlines really don’t understand anything other than a green card so I doubt you will have much luck without it.

Well, one can leave the US during the adjustment of process phase if he/she has a valid visa, such as an H visa, without affecting their application. That being said, I agree that most airlines don’t really understand the difference between an EAD and a green card. Maybe someone who’s tried applying with an EAD will chime in.

flyboyike 25th Mar 2019 16:38


Originally Posted by sigler (Post 10428716)
Almost everyone who gets a green card goes through the adjustment of status phase towards the end of the process. At some point during AOS, you get an Employment Authorization Document (EAD), which gives you the right to work in the US but is not yet the final permanent residency document. My question is, do US airlines hire pilots with an EAD or do they make you wait until your green card process is 100% finished?

I was hired by my first airline before I got my Green Card (granted, only about 6 months before). I held a Refugee Travel Document which was good enough, because the only international stuff we did was Canada. Had no issues other than one Customs guy at BOS had me fill out an I-94 "just in case".

sigler 27th Mar 2019 15:47

Thanks for the info. It sounds like some airlines are happy with an EAD.

raysalmon 28th Mar 2019 03:36

It's against the law to require specific documents to prove work authorization. In other words, they cannot ask you for a "green card", they may only ask you to prove you are authorized to work in the U.S. Look at the instructions for completing the I-9 form. Pretty clear on there what the employer's obligations are.

sigler 28th Mar 2019 13:58

Great info, thank you very much

Norman Goering 30th Mar 2019 20:25

Sigler- forgive my nosiness, what nationality are you and if not UK, is it the same process to get the EAD? All I keep seeing is a viscious cycle right now in my efforts!

sigler 31st Mar 2019 03:53

I am not from the UK, but the adjustment of status phase is the same regardless of your country of origin. Do you already have an approved immigrant visa petition? If so, the EAD should come anywhere 3 to 6 months after you file your I-485, on average.

flyboyike 2nd Apr 2019 11:10


Originally Posted by raysalmon (Post 10432065)
It's against the law to require specific documents to prove work authorization. In other words, they cannot ask you for a "green card", they may only ask you to prove you are authorized to work in the U.S. Look at the instructions for completing the I-9 form. Pretty clear on there what the employer's obligations are.

Since Green Card is one of the documents listed on the I-9 form, technically yes, they can ask you for it specifically, particularly if lack thereof might limit the airline's ability to schedule you for some destinations. There have been cases where an unexpired I-551 stamp in one's foreign passport has been accepted as a substitute, but here again, depending on the passport in question, there may be scheduling issues.


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