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Fonsini 5th Jan 2017 13:04

Pilots - now third most dangerous US job
 
Per the latest statistics for male civilian workers for 2015 from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. Pilots and flight engineers have the third highest fatality rate of all reported professions with a fatal injury rate of slightly more than 40 per 100,000.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/6047c0e...rous-jobs.html

I confess I was surprised to see that one :bored:

Hotel Tango 5th Jan 2017 13:26

Probably includes GA which accounts for a high percentage of fatalities in the industry.

blind pew 5th Jan 2017 13:49

Luxury...we lost 14 pilots on duty in four separate accidents over five years out of 1,000....but then it was a mans' profession......

mustangsally 5th Jan 2017 14:03

I'd have to raise the BS flag on this one!
 
First of all there were zero 121 carrier deaths in 2016, or 2015. Basically the same for 135 operation. The last reported death for scheduled commercial flights was February 2009. US Bureau of Labor Statistics only shows data for 2015 and earlier. General Aviation statistic are higher, but that data includes recreational pilots, who are non professional. Industrialized nations had one death in 23.9 million flights.


Your data also included Flight Engineers. There are so few companies that employ FE's. Not many 727, DC-10/MD11, 747-100, 200, 300's, AB-300 in use.

donotdespisethesnake 5th Jan 2017 14:24

Lies, damn lies and statistics...
The source data is here https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cfoi.pdf and https://www.bls.gov/iif/oshcfoi1.htm. However the yahoo report is based Chart 3 from the first PDF. The occupational category is "Aircraft pilots and flight engineers" and there were 57 fatalities. That seems very high, but does not say whether the fatality occurred while flying or not.
Note that the "fatality rate" is normalized to "full-time equivalent workers", so may be different to rate per day worked.

c52 5th Jan 2017 14:49

Do the numbers add up if you include military?

c52 5th Jan 2017 14:51

apologies, I see that the figures relate to civilians.

peekay4 6th Jan 2017 01:10


First of all there were zero 121 carrier deaths in 2016, or 2015. Basically the same for 135 operation. The last reported death for scheduled commercial flights was February 2009.
True for 121, but not for 135. There were roughly 30 fatalities last year in about a dozen 135 accidents -- including fatal crashes of at least two scheduled commercial flights (from the same company, no less).

Most of these were single-pilot ops, so roughly a dozen commercial pilots were lost. Two big groups in fatal 135 crashes were Alaska commuter ops and medical/medevac flights (both fixed wing and helicopter).

We also lost ~ 12 commercial pilots last year to fatal accidents in agricultural ops; I believe all were aerial spraying accidents.

Add Part 91 crashes (e.g., private biz jets w/ commercial crew, flight instructing accidents, etc.) then the 57 commercial pilot fatalities reported by BLS looks correct.


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