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G-CPTN 14th Oct 2016 08:30

Unless, of course, he had something against the instructor?

edmundronald 14th Oct 2016 11:23

Yes, that sounds like an interesting comment. Has this sort of thing been known to happen in driving schools?

ATC Watcher 14th Oct 2016 12:40

The " deliberate" part must have come from the instructor. No CVR or FDR on a Seneca, to check what inputs were made and by who. No other pax.
Terrorism : on final APP ?
Suicide : with an instructor ? slow speed, on finals ?
Something does not really add up here.

peekay4 14th Oct 2016 16:10

Alternative scenario:

- Student pilot, not doing well in flight school, gets reprimanded by the instructor
- The student, mad at the instructor, starts flying aggressively, "showboating" his "skills"
- The instructor, having enough of the situation, decides to take control and says "My Plane"
- Student refuses to cede control, struggle ensues, plane crashes

No terrorism, no suicide intent... just heated argument between student and instructor.

CONSO 14th Oct 2016 17:56

Plausible ?
 
Another case of ' workplace violence ' ??

ATC Watcher 15th Oct 2016 07:36

Peekay4 ; Alternative Scenario : yes I could buy that one . Good point .

Airbubba 15th Oct 2016 17:28

Two differing views of the student's demeanor in the days before the crash from media reports:


Student Pilot Acted Out Of Character For Days Before Crash, Investigators Told

David Owens and Christine Dempsey and Edmund H. Mahony On Oct 14, 2016

Source: McClatchy

Oct. 14--The student pilot who authorities believe intentionally crashed a twin-engine airplane on Main Street Tuesday was acting increasingly erratic in the days before the crash, law enforcement sources said.

Feras M. Freitekh seemed out of sorts and, over the two or three days before the crash, was "confrontational" and "cranky," investigators said Freitekh's acquaintances told them.

The behavior, while out of character, was not so alarming to prompt his acquaintances to notify anyone, investigators said.

Law enforcement officials said Wednesday that Freitekh, 28, was flying the Piper PA-34 Seneca erratically and fought with the flight instructor, Arian Prevalla, 43, just before the crash. Prevalla was badly burned in the crash and was listed in fair condition Thursday at the Bridgeport Hospital burn center.

While authorities said Wednesday that Freitekh was distraught over his performance at the American Flight Academy at Hartford's Brainard Airport, the new information reveals more about the Jordanian national's state of mind in the days before the crash. And the findings further support the theory held by investigators that the crash near the Pratt & Whitney headquarters was intentional.

"This is looking like a suicide," an official said. The investigation is ongoing and authorities have said they have not reached a definitive conclusion on why the plane crashed.
Student Pilot Acted Out Of Character For Days Before Crash, Investigators Told


Friends: Student in crash was upbeat, happy to be flying

By DAVE COLLINS,

Last Updated: Friday, October 14, 2016

HARTFORD, Conn. --

(AP) A few hours before he died in a Connecticut plane crash, Feras Freitekh left a message for a close friend in his native Jordan in which he joked around, asked for help with a game app and said he would talk with him after a final flight test this week.

The friend, Amjad Majdy, said Freitekh was happy to be fulfilling his passion for aviation. He and others who were close to the student pilot say they are puzzled by U.S. officials' assertions that Tuesday's plane crash was intentional, including one official who said it appears to have been a suicide attempt by Freitekh.

"He was laughing and he was normal. Nothing wrong with him," Majdy, who lives in Amman, said via Facebook messaging. "He loved being a pilot. That was his dream."

Freitekh was born in Kuwait and moved to Amman with his family when he was a boy, friends say, and he came to Hartford to attend the American Flight Academy in 2013. Besides flying, they say he loved playing video games including Dota 2 and World of Warcraft both online, multiplayer games involving roleplaying and battling enemies. He also had a girlfriend.

Several friends said he was not known to have problems with depression or anger.

They said Freitekh was supposed to take his last flying exam Friday, and he planned to return to Jordan and look for an airline job.

A friend who lives in Jordan, Ma'en Al-wishah, said he talked with Freitekh a few days before the crash and Freitekh didn't say anything about having problems with his training.

"Planes were everything to him," Al-wishah said. "All he wanted is to get that license. He was always in a good mood. He was a funny guy. I can assure you ... Feras would never hurt anyone."
Friends: Student in crash was upbeat, happy to be flying

hikoushi 17th Oct 2016 08:27

In the United States post 9/11 yes, if you drive an airplane into a building you are, in point of fact, going to be assumed guilty until proven innocent or the autopsy shows the heart attack.

lomapaseo 17th Oct 2016 10:10

They didn't hit a buildings, they landed short

West Coast 17th Oct 2016 15:12


They didn't hit a buildings, they landed short
UA 93 didn't hit a building yet it was terrorism.

old freightdog 25th Oct 2016 11:53


Originally Posted by peekay4 (Post 9540917)
Alternative scenario:

- Student pilot, not doing well in flight school, gets reprimanded by the instructor
- The student, mad at the instructor, starts flying aggressively, "showboating" his "skills"
- The instructor, having enough of the situation, decides to take control and says "My Plane"
- Student refuses to cede control, struggle ensues, plane crashes

No terrorism, no suicide intent... just heated argument between student and instructor.

And the other alternative would be, instructor badly screwed up, needed a scapegoat and is now busy trying to save his neck! but hey, it must have been the student, because he is from the mid east, right?

lomapaseo 25th Oct 2016 12:15


And the other alternative would be, instructor badly screwed up, needed a scapegoat and is now busy trying to save his neck! but hey, it must have been the student, because he is from the mid east, right?
Well there is a middle of the road answer as well

Both pilots were arguing about the approach and each fought to take control. Only one survives as the source of an explanation.

I just don't see the importance of this part.

juice 25th Oct 2016 12:16

The second media report (ref Airbubba post #27) cheerfully tells us that he was born in two different countries.

'...his native Jordan [...]

Freitekh was born in Kuwait...'

Airbubba 25th Oct 2016 13:56

I agree, the term 'native' is loosely used but the first article correctly identifies Freitekh as a Jordanian national.

Like most countries in Europe and Asia (including Ireland since the famous 2004 vote ;)), Kuwait does not confer jus soli citizenship on everyone born there.

From a New York Times article:


The student, Fera [sic, I think it is actually Feras - Airbubba] M. Freitekh, 28, was a Jordanian national of Palestinian descent who came to the United States several years ago to pursue his lifelong dream of becoming a pilot, according to his cousin Abdul-Rahman Freitekh.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/ny...ane-crash.html

jugofpropwash 21st Apr 2017 02:00

Just an update:

State Police help feds take items out of CT flight school - WFSB 3 Connecticut

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/troubl...FlowFB_CTBrand


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