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AmericanFlyer 4th Feb 2015 04:55

Selfies cause Colorado crash says NTSB
 
Selfie plane crash: Colorado deaths possibly linked to pilot photos, review says.

con-pilot 4th Feb 2015 18:39

Bound to happen sooner or later I suppose. Very silly way to go.

James331 5th Feb 2015 14:07

Not quite accurate and I'm disappointed in the NTSB playing on hot topic issues for politics and not sticking to the facts


http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviat ... 265&akey=1

The crash had NOTHING to do with "selfies"

It was caused by a non IFR or NIGHT current pilot taking off at night in LIFR conditions (300OVC 2 1/2SM), he had no flight plan (see no IFR clearance) and did what most people in that situation do, sharp turn to a steep dive and impacted. :rolleyes:

clunckdriver 5th Feb 2015 15:12

I think what the NTSB really said that the taking of "selfies" MAY have contributed to the crash, Im pretty sure that a low time non -IFR pilot who has been subjected to such a flash would certainly not be helped by these actions on the part of the pasengers.

James331 5th Feb 2015 16:51

A reach around also MAY have caused the crash.
Avoiding a mid air with a condor MAY have caused the crash
MAY MAY MAY.

As for a flash, please! Take your hands off a 152 to rub your eyes, she'll fly more or less straight and level, also I've had laser strikes, all sorts of lights and commotion in the cabin, never gone into a death spiral because of it.

I don't need my tax dollars spent on assumptions, the NTSB is normally pretty good about sticking to the FACTS.

FACT START --- The pilot was not instrument current or night current, he had less then 20hrs in the clouds, and he did not even have a flight plan or clearance for flying in the clouds. He launched into the night with overcast clouds at a mere 300 above the ground, he lost control and crashed. --- FACTS END

Everything else is opinion and assumption, save the political driven assumptions for the talk shows.

Not like they found a "smoking gun" selfie.

....Also his flight path was text book spatial disorientation, steep turn to spiral.

James331 5th Feb 2015 17:00

Just for a refresher of what often happens when folks who should NOT be in clouds go into clouds.

Countless reports on this exact thing happening.

For the dead 152 pilot it was even worse, 300 overcast and night.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b7t4IR-3mSo


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