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Fr. Dougal 16th Apr 2014 07:27

TSA! help required
 
Can anybody help me with the TSA? I have a JAA ATPL and would like to be issued with a FAA PPL so I can do a seaplane rating in the US.

Do I or do I not need TSA approval? I have been given conflicting information from the school I would like to go to and people I have spoken to. The TSA website isn't much of a help:(

Thanks

Irish21 16th Apr 2014 07:57

best bet is to go to the FAA.gov website/correspond with someone from the FAA via email so you have something in writing. The other option would be to contact the US embassy in your city/country for info. Get it in writing.

malc4d 16th Apr 2014 09:51

As you want an initial FAA rating l believe yes you do. And most probably a visa. Why go for a private ? go for the ATP as you hold one. Its the same Government paperwork. You could get the 'based on' private license but l believe you cant add a FAA rating to that. So .... back to the first line.

MarkerInbound 16th Apr 2014 11:42

If you're just doing the 61.75 based on private you don't need the TSA background check. I hate to use the word logic and TSA in the same sentence but their idea is since you are not adding a skills set (no training is required) there is no reason to do the background check. Same as if you go from a private to a commercial. I can't find anything on the TSA web site but the AOPA has put out a guide covering TSA and they say TSA has "clarified" that no background check is required.

Since you say you want to do seaplane training I believe malc4d is right. The seaplane checkride will result in a stand alone FAA certificate. You can't mix and match between your based on and stand alone certificates. Since you are getting training to add a skill you'll need the TSA check.

Fr. Dougal 16th Apr 2014 15:29

Thank you all. I better get on with the TSA application then. The aircraft being under 12500lbs lead me to believe I would not require authorization, as did the fact that the licence would be based on my JAA licence. Seems it wasn't that easy!

malc4d 16th Apr 2014 23:15

New up date....I believe that you cant do the ATP seaplane without having 50hrs in type and class. Bummer as l wanted to get my multi seaplane atp.
Now looking for time building options.

MarkerInbound 17th Apr 2014 18:13

It's category and class.

custardpsc 26th Apr 2014 15:44

You arent clear if you intend a 61.75 based on your existing foreign licence or a new issue of a private certificate by checkride. If you intend a 61.75 you dont need any tsa approval for float training, and you can add a float rating at the private level to a 61.75 but getting a 61.75 is in itself a fair amount of paperwork. I had a 61.75 and ended up doing the private checkride to get rid of it. I wish I had done that in the first place. There is a lot of bull spouted on here about visas and tsa. If you have any further ambition in faa licences my advice would be to apply for a b1/b2 visa, do the tsa and private checkride (on floats if you like) and be properly in the system. Makes it easier later for IR etc.

custardpsc 26th Apr 2014 15:49

Marker inbound mentions tsa not required when going from private to commercial, worth pointing out he means a proper private certificate, not a 61.75. 61.75 to commercial does require tsa.

MarkerInbound 26th Apr 2014 16:49

True. The TSA says their check is required for an initial certificate and then when you add a skill set. Then they turn around and say you don't need it for the 61.75 since no training took place. So I guess they think .... um, I have no idea how they think.

Tinstaafl 27th Apr 2014 19:11

Nor do they, Marker...


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