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ThatGuy0 25th Jun 2013 09:51

Reno ILS 16R approach
 
Hey guys,

Can some one please talk me through the Reno ILS 16R approach?
http://155.178.201.160/d-tpp/1306/00346I16R.PDF

Cheers.

indefinitehold 26th Jun 2013 17:13

Can you clarify what you need to be talked through?

You can send me a PM if you wish.

B-HKD 1st Jul 2013 03:10

You have two IAF's to start the approach on.

1. IAF being PYRAM which has NoPT (No procedure turn required), you start there while maintaining 8500' and head to intercept the ILS16R LOC/GS.

2. IAF being TAKLE on a 316° radial from FMG (117.9) you begin by overflying TAKLE (altitude is up to you/ATC) heading 344° for a minute or so while descending to 9000', then turn outbound heading 299° for another minute or so, and then turn inbound (to the left) heading 119° until finally intercepting the ILS 16R LOC/GS at 8500'.

Note: you are required to remain within 10nm of TAKLE during this procedure turn.

pcx 1st Jul 2013 06:59

I think that is all correct except that the turn inbound onto 119 should be a right turn.

B-HKD 1st Jul 2013 14:56

^ Not sure why this angry looking smiley is up there...

pcx


I think that is all correct except that the turn inbound onto 119 should be a right turn.
In this case the barb on the procedure turn indicates a left turn inbound.

However, it is ultimately up to the pilot to decide if the inbound turn should be as the barb indicates or the other way.

If you want to give yourself aome extra room, and absent of a big tailwind during the outbound turn, there is no problem with making a right turn inbound.

Again, "Remain within 10 NM of TAKLE"

MarkerInbound 1st Jul 2013 16:57


In this case the barb on the procedure turn indicates a left turn inbound.
Not saying your wrong but I'd like to see some guidance on that. Usually the term "barb" refers to the (in this case) 299/119 line. As in "The protected airspace is on the side with the barb." The little triangle at the end of the 299/199 line is just a printing thing to mark the end of the line.

B-HKD 1st Jul 2013 17:48

MarkerInbound


Not saying your wrong but I'd like to see some guidance on that. Usually the term "barb" refers to the (in this case) 299/119 line. As in "The protected airspace is on the side with the barb." The little triangle at the end of the 299/199 line is just a printing thing to mark the end of the line.
Indeed you are correct and I was mistaken. I meant to write "In this case the barb on the procedure turn indicates a left turn outbound" And indeed, the barb itself is merely printed to mark the end of the line.

One can however indeed turn inbound either left or right and the side the barb is printed on can be used a 'hint' or reminder as to which turn direction inbound will provide a bigger margin of safety while remaining within the 10 NM protected area. (Wind depending of course).

pcx 2nd Jul 2013 07:29

Thanks guys.
The Jepp plate for this approach shows the turn to the right.
Sorry I don't know how to post a copy here.
If you did make it a left turn you certainly make it more difficult to intercept the LLZ before TAKLE.

Desert185 19th Jul 2013 00:29

It is normal to be radar vectored to the final approach course, so just select the freq and inbound course and go to mins and land.

There is also a Silver approach with lower mins, if your aircraft has the required performance capability.

This time of year, WX won't be an issue, but watch the winds in the late morning and afternoon.

:ok:

muntisk 24th May 2014 08:42

Sirs

What about when you are coming from TUDDY, I would start timing form TUDDY 1 min and then left turn heading 299 for procedure turn 1min etc..

Is it correct?
Thanks


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