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121 pilot and CFI expiring
I fly for a 121 airline, my CFI\CFII\MEI are expiring in May. What are the recomendations to renew it before it expires, Im on a budget and dont have much free time.
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Do an online renewal course. Gleim, American Flyers and others offer the online course for around $125.00 - $150.00 last time I checked. (I've done the AF course the last ten years or so because lifetime renewal is covered by a 1 time payment.)
The online renewal courses are all based upon a 16 hours requirement though each course has it's own methods of achieving this. I found the Gleim course to be the most palatable but find the terms of the AF course outweigh the benefits of the superior course when money is tight. (like now, my certificate expires in a few months) For an additional charge both Gleim and AF will process your renewal with the FAA or you can just print your training certificate and take it to the FSDO with a completed 8710 yourself. I'd presume other providers offer the same services. Remember, an appointment is required for a FSDO visit. Best wishes, westhawk |
Are you a captain perhaps? If so, maybe your local FSDO will renew it for you for free. I know that is what the CVG FSDO would do for 121 PIC's. I had it done 3 times.
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Here is the relevant regulation.
§ 61.197 Renewal requirements for flight instructor certification. (a) A person who holds a flight instructor certificate that has not expired may renew that flight instructor certificate by— (1) Passing a practical test for— (i) One of the ratings listed on the current flight instructor certificate; or (ii) An additional flight instructor rating; or (2) Submitting a completed and signed application with the FAA and satisfactorily completing one of the following renewal requirements— (i) A record of training students showing that, during the preceding 24 calendar months, the flight instructor has endorsed at least 5 students for a practical test for a certificate or rating and at least 80 percent of those students passed that test on the first attempt. (ii) A record showing that, within the preceding 24 calendar months, the flight instructor has served as a company check pilot, chief flight instructor, company check airman, or flight instructor in a part 121 or part 135 operation, or in a position involving the regular evaluation of pilots. (iii) A graduation certificate showing that, within the preceding 3 calendar months, the person has successfully completed an approved flight instructor refresher course consisting of ground training or flight training, or a combination of both. (iv) A record showing that, within the preceding 12 months from the month of application, the flight instructor passed an official U.S. Armed Forces military instructor pilot proficiency check. |
The aforementioned American Flyers FIRC will get you set-up for life. Pay once, renew as many times as you need to-- I set mine up about 15 years ago.
A bit boring sometimes the way the content is structured, but that's another story. |
Take a copy of your last sim or line check to your local FSDO and that should do the trick...I did mine in Miami some years back...I was a check airman on a Boeing jet, but I think being a Captain is all that is needed...
Maybe an F/O with an ATP, but I'm not sure about that one... |
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(ii) A record showing that, within the preceding 24 calendar months, the flight instructor has served as a company check pilot, chief flight instructor, company check airman, or flight instructor in a part 121 or part 135 operation, or in a position involving the regular evaluation of pilots. The regs expressly allow a check airman to renew this way. I did when I was a 135 check airman. If an FAA inspector wants to interpret the above more liberally I guess that's their business... westhawk |
Originally Posted by westhawk
The regs expressly allow a check airman to renew this way. I did when I was a 135 check airman. If an FAA inspector wants to interpret the above more liberally I guess that's their business...
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I've heard rumors of this happening, but I don't have any direct knowledge of it. Might be just wishful thinking. An inspector would be waaaaayyyyy out on a limb renewing a CFI for a 121 captain on that basis. westhawk |
If your company Op's Manual state that you you do supervisory training for first officers, that used to be satisfactory, and I renewed many. Now long retired.
The local airline had it in their manual and United did not so we could renew the commuter, but not Big Brother, until they added the appropriate phrases in their books. That is how one FSDO interpreted the rule. The one in the next city may not, as you know the FAA is so standardised?? That is of course very unfortunate and makes for friction on both sides. Speedbird 48. |
Jfsboat - if you decide to go the online route - take a look at the King course.
I've been using the Jepp online course until my last renewal a few months ago. The King course was, in comparison, at least twice or maybe three times as quick, more interesting, fully IPad compatible and the renewal paperwork is all done online - nothing to mail in. I was very impressed. Of course, getting a freebie from your local FAA chap is always the best option, I have just found though that's hard to make happen. Good luck. |
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