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Working in the US.
Hi, First post in this section
I am a dual US/Swedish citizen who has just completed my Ab Initio training in europe. Now just out of curiosity, If i would have a few years on the B737 or A320 under my belt, would i have any chance of recieving a job with a major US airline? I know that most US majors require a 4 year college degree which i probably wont have (unless i get a sudden urge to do 4 years of internet college). Will they take my 2 years of Ab initio training into account? And of course I would have to get an american CPL or ATP (I already have PPL ME IR) Sorry about the horrible writing, its getting late over here :} :ugh: |
Opinion only -
I doubt they care beyond what their stated requirements are. I think A320/B737 time is great but often times they require turbine PIC time also. http://airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines.html has posted hiring requirements. |
Well at that time i would have considerable PICUS time on the B737/A320, as well as maybe some pic if upgraded.
Its just that they require 4 year university degrees. Which I wont have. |
I don't know how quick of an upgrade you're going to see at your 737 or 320 operation over there, but you'll need to sit as a Captain for a while before the American majors will even consider you. 1000 hours Turbine PIC seems to be the magic number. PICUS time is a European invention, and the U.S. carriers won't consider it the same way that they do over there. And yes, you're certainly going to need that 4-year degree. The other sad truth is that unless you're female, you'll need help from current pilots for internal recommendations. That said, time on either of those aircraft might get you attention when you try for the American majors, as your main competition will be from RJ and military pilots. The other issue you should consider is whether you would really want to change over to the US after you've landed a job flying that kind of equipment in Europe. I'm sure you're familiar with the level of morale at the American majors...
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Ok, let's flip this real quick. Sorry to hijack the thread... you say the morale at US majors isn't stellar, how is it in the EU? Also how easy would it be to convert an ATP and translate some RJ PIC time into a job somewhere in the EU? (w/ 4-year degree) and I don't have any EU citizenship...
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Well, like anywhere else it always depends on the demand...right now you'd easily be able to get a command position on equipment like the B737/A320 or F100, but those carriers usually don't have seniority lists or are expandeng very fast (eg Easy Jet in the UK, with almost excellent working conditions btw).
Many majors just require around 1000h SIC and are not looking for any PIC time. They will put you to the bottom of the seniority list and it'll take around 10 to 14 years to be promoted to a cpt. Just two years ago BA hired experienced F/O's and some guys even got a job on the B777. greetings |
ANY IDEAS ???
Married a lady I've known almost all my life.. she's now living in the US and has citizenship... takes many months for my green card application to be processed and in the meantime I'm not allowed either to leave the US or earn money in the US.... US is crying out for pilots... I have 8000+ hrs and will have to sit on my Butt wasting hard earned funds for 4, 5 or more months... never went the instructor route, only people currently offering visas to non US residents, so... ANY IDEAS ? |
Make your way to Mexico, and then jump the fence to get back. Then you will be able to get a job without a visa. :ooh:
Come here legally and you are out of luck. :( poorwanderingwun - Check you PMs. :) |
poorwanderingwun
You can apply for an employment authorization card while you are awaiting your residency application. This will allow you to work, and there are companies who will hire you with this document. You can apply for advance parole which is a document that will let you leave the country and reenter while awaiting residency also, you can even apply for a parole that will give you multiple reentry privileges, usually good for one year. You should talk to an immigration lawyer, there are lots of options.
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Thanks weasil / C6... much appreciated...
been talking to an immigration lawyer and will get things started asap.. I'm trying to discover just how difficult it is for a company to sponsor someone for an HB1 (?) visa... what it costs them in time/money... I notice that some flight schools are now offering places... If I can get the info I can maybe approach a few people who may not of thought of sponsoring.. :ok: |
If you are married to a US citizen you don't need a visa. You just need to go to your local USCIS office and apply for an employment authorization card.
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Weasil...
That may have been the case pre- 9/11... seems not so easy now... |
poorwanderingwun, where in the US are you? Am doing a very similar thing to you right now.
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Currently flying contract in Africa.. will be back in the States in a couple of months,, N Y... and you.. ?
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check your pm's.
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poorwanderingwun
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...0045f3d6a1RCRD
I think you are getting bad advice from somewhere. Click on the above link and it will take you to the application I-765 for an EAD (employment authorisation card). If you are currently awaiting adjustment of status to permanent resident (I-485) than you are eligible for an I-765. This has not changed since 9/11 and if someone is telling you otherwise they are mistaken. I know from first hand experience you can work at an airline in the US with this document. If you have not filed for permanent resident status yet then make sure to file this application at the same time. If its too late for that then you can fill this application out online. If you have any questions feel free to pm me. Good Luck. |
Thanks Weasil... will make sure I follow that one up right now ! :ok:
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In the process too..
Hi all aspiring US residents
I just submitted my application for permanent residency this past Friday. For many years I have been told that I can't leave the country while waiting for my papers to be approved. To my big surprise I was told by the immigration officer who interviewed me and my US wife that I can come and go as I wish. As soon as I get the receipt for the application being officially accepted I can apply for advanced parole, which will be granted immediately. The reason some people are not allowed is due to their visa on which they entered the country. As a Swede entering on an I-94 things are different, for the better. This is great news to me since I am currently working as a freelance pilot in Africa. Btw, I have been in contact with an immigration lawyer who was supposed to be in the knows, and she didn't tell me about this. To all of you considering hiring a lawyer to do your paper work, DON'T. All the information you need for the paperwork is on the www.uscis.org wbesite. If you have even half a brain and a case that is straight forward I suggest you save those thousands of dollars a lawyer would cheat you on.. You will need every dollar trying to survive on the low low :yuk: wages being offered at the moment here in the US. Hoping things will get better soon though, as signs of that are starting to emerge. Good luck to all of you guys trying to make it over here :ok:. |
Glad to hear somebody getting some correct information for once. I know there is a lot of misinformation floating around out there. If you do plan on traveling on advance parole, make sure you familiarise yourself with the in country residency requirements, in the event you want to become naturalised eventually. If you spend large amounts of time out of the country (I forget the specifics) your application will be denied based on the fact that you haven't actually lived here.
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Residency Requirements
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...0045f3d6a1RCRD
Originally Posted by USCIS
International Travel
A Permanent Resident of the United States can travel freely outside of the US. A passport from the country of citizenship is normally all that is needed. To reenter the US a Permanent Resident normally needs to present the green card (Permanent Resident Card, Form I-551) for readmission. A reentry permit is needed for reentry for trips greater than one year but less than two years in duration. You can find more information about travel documents from "How Do I Get a Travel Document?" Maintaining Permanent Residence Maintaining Permanent Residence You may lose your permanent residence status if you commit an act that makes you removable from the United States under the law in section 237 of the Immigration and Nationality Act. If you commit such an act, you may be brought before the immigration courts to determine your right to remain a Permanent Resident. You may be found to have abandoned your permanent resident status if you: Move to another country intending to live there permanently. Remain outside of the US for more than one year without obtaining a reentry permit or returning resident visa. However in determining whether your status has been abandoned any length of absence from the US may be considered, even if it is less than one year. Remain outside of the US for more than two years after issuance of a reentry permit without obtaining a returning resident visa. However in determining whether your status has been abandoned any length of absence from the US may be considered, even if it is less than one year. Fail to file income tax returns while living outside of the US for any period. Declare yourself a “nonimmigrant” on your tax returns. |
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