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Miles Hi 31st Aug 2006 12:34

Flying an "N" reg with Canadian docs
 
Hi guys,

Is there a reciprocal agreement of some sort between Transport Canada and the FAA, that allows Canadians fly US registered aircraft on their Canadian Licence and Medical?

Just curious is it's possible, or do you need an FAA licence with rating, and a medical?

I'm talking Part 91 here.

Thanks


Miles

Weekend-warrior 7th Sep 2006 04:33

Yea all you need to do is download the validation of foreign licenses off of the FSDO website, after doing that you fill it out and send it in to the FSDO office. You will then be sent a letter telling you to schedule an appointment at the FAA office nearest to you. When you go for the interview they just issue you a private FAA license for the low cost of free and you are ready to fly "N" registered aircraft.

Miles Hi 7th Sep 2006 13:59

Thanks
 
WW,
Thanks a lot. Do you need a US Medical also? I would have thought, being neighbours, that the Canadian Licence and Medical was interchangeable.
How about this - to Captain a N Reg Commercial aircraft, do you need a type rating on the FAA Licence, if you have it on the Canadian one?

flyboyike 7th Sep 2006 17:39


Originally Posted by Miles Hi (Post 2831255)
WW,
Thanks a lot. Do you need a US Medical also? I would have thought, being neighbours, that the Canadian Licence and Medical was interchangeable.
How about this - to Captain a N Reg Commercial aircraft, do you need a type rating on the FAA Licence, if you have it on the Canadian one?

No, you do not need a US Medical, provided your Canadian one has not expired.

Read more here:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text...2.1.10&idno=14


As for your question about commercial aircraft, do you mean commanding an N reg aircraft in the US or do you mean flying an N reg bird with your Canadian license somewhere in a third country?

rick1128 9th Sep 2006 21:45

Under ICAO rules, the nationality of the pilot certificate much mach one of the following:

1. Natioanlity of the aircraft

2. Nationality of the airspace being flown in.

Quite simple acutally.

flyboyike 9th Sep 2006 23:11


Originally Posted by rick1128 (Post 2835395)
Under ICAO rules, the nationality of the pilot certificate much mach one of the following:

1. Natioanlity of the aircraft

2. Nationality of the airspace being flown in.

Quite simple acutally.

Interesting...So then a Cathay Pacific pilot who is flying an Australian-registered airplane in HK airspace while carrying a US certificate is in violation of ICAO rules? Or how about a Canadian pilot flying a Bahamas (VP-) registered airplane into the UK? I could go on, but you get the idea.

rick1128 10th Sep 2006 00:34


Originally Posted by flyboyike (Post 2835500)
Interesting...So then a Cathay Pacific pilot who is flying an Australian-registered airplane in HK airspace while carrying a US certificate is in violation of ICAO rules? Or how about a Canadian pilot flying a Bahamas (VP-) registered airplane into the UK? I could go on, but you get the idea.

You can hold more than one pilot certificate. What many countries do is issue a pilot a validation based on their pilot's certificate. For all intents and purposes, it is a pilot certificate for that nation, but is issued on the basis of the pilot's national certification.

Miles Hi 11th Sep 2006 09:42

clafification
 
Hi guys, thanks to all for the responses to date.

What I'm talking about is a Canadian crew flying an "N" reg Jet, under Part 91, but with Canadian Licences, Canadian Medicals. The aircraft will fly from the US, however.

Is that allowed?

flyboyike 11th Sep 2006 12:42


Originally Posted by Miles Hi (Post 2842135)
Hi guys, thanks to all for the responses to date.

What I'm talking about is a Canadian crew flying an "N" reg Jet, under Part 91, but with Canadian Licences, Canadian Medicals. The aircraft will fly from the US, however.

Is that allowed?

No, not as stated. You will need US CPLs. Plus, you're getting into the whole work permit situation at that point.

Panama Jack 12th Sep 2006 19:14

I am about to go to bed, unwilling to invest the research, and uncertain of the current status however . . .

About 10 years ago when I last checked the FAA had no objection to you flying an N-registed aircraft in your country of licencing (ie. a Canadian licenced pilot flying an N-registered aircraft in Canada on your Canadian licences). Transport Canada may have held a different position on this.

However, if you were to fly from the US, you need at least a US validation for category, class, and type (if required).

Work permits (and even doing this on a US Private Pilot validation without a US Type Rating) may not be an issue at all, particularly if there is no cabotage involved (the aircraft is simply leaving the US). You should contact an FAA FSDO as they can probably advise you better, particularly if this is a one-time ferry deal.



Originally Posted by Miles Hi (Post 2842135)
Hi guys, thanks to all for the responses to date.
What I'm talking about is a Canadian crew flying an "N" reg Jet, under Part 91, but with Canadian Licences, Canadian Medicals. The aircraft will fly from the US, however.
Is that allowed?



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