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Apple Vacations USA 18 months ago started up it's own in house airline named USA 3000 Airlines, to fly brand new A320's and during the interview process touted to be mirrored after Jetblue and to be a place where one would be proud to hang their hat.
It is just another dirt bag operator.
Crappy pay, crappy schedules and an anti pilot combative management team headed up by Angus Kinnear.
If you are contemplating coming here ... DON'T.
It is just another dirt bag operator.
Crappy pay, crappy schedules and an anti pilot combative management team headed up by Angus Kinnear.
If you are contemplating coming here ... DON'T.
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They have been in business for 18 months, supposed to get 1 new plane every quarter. that has stopped - being blamed on sars etc, then they furloughed 12 pilots in June again because of sars and bookings down over 80%. As soon as the furloughs were into effect the bookings suddenly magically were back to normal numbers but our flying schedule because of the furloughs increased by 30%. Our schedules are lines built 5 days on 2-4 days off with the first day on being a early show and the last day on being a very late arrival making it almost impossible to commute. They also call one on a reserve day to assign trips on days off. Nasty tactics.
Very poor moral with every pilot looking to leave, dispatcher turnover 60% 3 station managers so far this year.
Glad to have a job but tired of being treated like a third class citizen.
Very poor moral with every pilot looking to leave, dispatcher turnover 60% 3 station managers so far this year.
Glad to have a job but tired of being treated like a third class citizen.
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I remember bumping into a U5 FA based in ORD who said they had incredibly early check-in times.. something like 4am? And they worked turns to the Caribbean. Now that is a long day.
Thanks for the heads up on them. Sorry to hear about their management.
Thanks for the heads up on them. Sorry to hear about their management.
Could they be associated with Ryan, which operates an A-321 MKE (Milwaukee) nonstop to Cancun, with a small German flag painted on behind the rear emer. exits? I walked up to the group of Flight Attendants at a gate on the E concourse and bluntly asked them "wo kommen Sie her?" (where are you from?) in my limited German. Nobody answered-but the one who looked like the Lead Purser moments later told me that she lives in Dusseldorf; it must be a very tight-lipped operation. The others looked like US gals and all wore the colorful neck scarves which seem so typical of European airlines. Whatever the operation is, I've seen an A-321 with the same flag and paint scheme in DTW several months ago at the old international terminal.
Probably a different operation.
Probably a different operation.
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This is one of those things that makes this so darned entertaining...
It APPEARS to me that:
--The USA 3000 (Brendan Airways LLC) airframes are all US registered. I don't know that any of them have a German flag on them. Rather, I think they all have US flags near the N number.
--The A32X airframes with the German flag (well, not ALL A32X with German flags, of course...) are Ryan Int'l aircraft leased from Aero Lloyd and flown under Funjet Vacations and Trans Global livery (with the only difference being the words "Trans Global" appearing in place of "Funjet Vactaions" under the first 10 or 12 windows on each side... are those things magnetic stick-ons? The Aero Lloyd logos on the tail and engines remain, but where the aircraft said "Aero Lloyd" on the side, it now says "Funjet Vacations" or "Trans Global") whereas the Ryan/Trans Global airframes with British registration are, I believe, JMC Air. Was that a run-on sentence just then?
--From what I've seen:
------The US-registered, USA 3000/Brendan Airways aircraft have a US flag painted AFT of the registration number;
------The German-registered Aero Lloyd/Ryan/Funjet/Trans Global aircraft have German flags painted FORWARD of the registration number; and,
-------The British registered Ryan/Trans Global/JMC Air aircraft don't have flags.
Standard disclaimers... don't know for sure/based on observationand speculation/my opinion, etc.
Isn't Trans Global the airline Capt. Vernon Demerest used to fly for?
Dave
It APPEARS to me that:
--The USA 3000 (Brendan Airways LLC) airframes are all US registered. I don't know that any of them have a German flag on them. Rather, I think they all have US flags near the N number.
--The A32X airframes with the German flag (well, not ALL A32X with German flags, of course...) are Ryan Int'l aircraft leased from Aero Lloyd and flown under Funjet Vacations and Trans Global livery (with the only difference being the words "Trans Global" appearing in place of "Funjet Vactaions" under the first 10 or 12 windows on each side... are those things magnetic stick-ons? The Aero Lloyd logos on the tail and engines remain, but where the aircraft said "Aero Lloyd" on the side, it now says "Funjet Vacations" or "Trans Global") whereas the Ryan/Trans Global airframes with British registration are, I believe, JMC Air. Was that a run-on sentence just then?
--From what I've seen:
------The US-registered, USA 3000/Brendan Airways aircraft have a US flag painted AFT of the registration number;
------The German-registered Aero Lloyd/Ryan/Funjet/Trans Global aircraft have German flags painted FORWARD of the registration number; and,
-------The British registered Ryan/Trans Global/JMC Air aircraft don't have flags.
Standard disclaimers... don't know for sure/based on observationand speculation/my opinion, etc.
Isn't Trans Global the airline Capt. Vernon Demerest used to fly for?
Dave
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Apple vacations is the umbrella that it all works under, the JMC aircraft and aerolloyd airraft are supposedly wet leased to Ryan In'tl to fly the apple vacations and trans global and funjets charters. Apple and Funjets are the 2 biggest vacation operators in USA.
USA 3000 airlines on the other hand is wholly owned by Brendan airways aka apple vacations. Brendan is the grandson of the owner Mullen.
They all fly vacation charters but usa3000 is US based and owned whereas the jmc/aerolloyd aircraft are wet leased and crewed by germans during the winter high season to ryan which is a contractor to apple and funjets and transglobal. the germans come and fly in the usa when there are thousands of us pilots out of work and to keep the ryan pilots from going to germany on a recipricol agreement as in ryan/ jmc 1998-2001 seasons. they pay the ryan pilots to sit on their asses for the summer. the a321 in mke is an aerolloyd aircraft left to fly funjets trips under ryan certificate and crewed by ryan pilots.
very deep and mirky.
USA 3000 airlines on the other hand is wholly owned by Brendan airways aka apple vacations. Brendan is the grandson of the owner Mullen.
They all fly vacation charters but usa3000 is US based and owned whereas the jmc/aerolloyd aircraft are wet leased and crewed by germans during the winter high season to ryan which is a contractor to apple and funjets and transglobal. the germans come and fly in the usa when there are thousands of us pilots out of work and to keep the ryan pilots from going to germany on a recipricol agreement as in ryan/ jmc 1998-2001 seasons. they pay the ryan pilots to sit on their asses for the summer. the a321 in mke is an aerolloyd aircraft left to fly funjets trips under ryan certificate and crewed by ryan pilots.
very deep and mirky.
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I am happy to have a job, no worries there, just the fact that the management lied to us so blatantly to suck us in to the job and I don't know who you have talked to Sharjah but I can assure you that there is not a single pilot who is happy at this ratbag operation. We are all looking to get out - but we are glad to have a job at the moment, but that is all it is - a job. when it was sold as a career. get the point????
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You are getting exactly what you signed up for. I have a friend that interviewed there and I have seen what he was offered and told what the company had plans for. He turned USA3000 down. Anyone who is there is there because they knew what they were signing on for.
As I said earlier. Quit
and if its that bad then move on rather than dodoing on your own doorstep.
There are 15,000 pilots who would take your job.
You are getting exactly what you signed up for. I have a friend that interviewed there and I have seen what he was offered and told what the company had plans for. He turned USA3000 down. Anyone who is there is there because they knew what they were signing on for.
As I said earlier. Quit
and if its that bad then move on rather than dodoing on your own doorstep.There are 15,000 pilots who would take your job.
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That sucks about U5. I remember when they launched with all this hoopla about them becoming the charter equivalent of JetBlue.
On travel forums, I read that their service is great for a charter carrier. Welcome mimosas, hot towels, etc. Too bad they cannot sort out the human resources end and make both customers and employees happy.
On travel forums, I read that their service is great for a charter carrier. Welcome mimosas, hot towels, etc. Too bad they cannot sort out the human resources end and make both customers and employees happy.
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Since when do Mimosas and hot towels make them like JetBlue? They don't even remotely resemble JB.
Unfortunately, it sounds like a typical charter outfit. Low pay, high workload and lots of workdays. Heard they just got Teamsters, though.
Unfortunately, it sounds like a typical charter outfit. Low pay, high workload and lots of workdays. Heard they just got Teamsters, though.
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B767300ER- Your merging two different items. The first bit was about them being the "charter" equivalent of B6. They have paperles cockpits, same config, same airplane, etc. And I didn't come up with that - that was their comparison, not mine.
The second was related to cabin service only, and was compared to charter airlines - not B6.
"That sucks about U5. I remember when they launched with all this hoopla about them becoming the charter equivalent of JetBlue.
"On travel forums, I read that their service is great for a charter carrier. Welcome mimosas, hot towels, etc. Too bad they cannot sort out the human resources end and make both customers and employees happy.
The second was related to cabin service only, and was compared to charter airlines - not B6.
"That sucks about U5. I remember when they launched with all this hoopla about them becoming the charter equivalent of JetBlue.
"On travel forums, I read that their service is great for a charter carrier. Welcome mimosas, hot towels, etc. Too bad they cannot sort out the human resources end and make both customers and employees happy.
