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Old 20th Sep 2019, 21:12
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Hi I am muslim. I am an aspiring pilot in America. With the charged/heated environment currently in America I am beginning to second guess my dream career choice. I want to know what airline has liberal hiring policies and what airline hires diverse pool of open minded people.
I really want to change the societal stigma that is associated with muslims, airports and airplanes. I mean you have to be a muslim at a western airport to really know what Im talking about.

Or if American society really won't accept me as a pilot. Then what other country airlines would be good options?? I had thought about Emirates or Etihad or Qatar but to my dismay they have poor Quality of Life.

I know about shaving, time away from home etc etc

So basically. I am muslim. Have the aviation bug. Want to have a good professional life. But am overwhelmed and outspoken in face of tons of movies, tv and news showing the muslim as the other and the evil.

Need help as Im nearly done with high school.
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You should move on and get your four year college degree if you are considering airline work in the US. I doubt that being Muslim is a disqualifier here in the US.
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Plenty of Muslims at my last two airlines. There’s no issue with being a Muslim in aviation. There are people of all races and beliefs flying aircraft in the US.

If you feel that being Muslim could hurt your chances at becoming an airline pilot, then the only one holding you back is yourself.

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Originally Posted by zondaracer
Plenty of Muslims at my last two airlines. There’s no issue with being a Muslim in aviation. There are people of all races and beliefs flying aircraft in the US.

If you feel that being Muslim could hurt your chances at becoming an airline pilot, then the only one holding you back is yourself.
Why is this website soooo doom and gloom especially in europeana and ME sections??

Alot of the guys saying that aviation globally is just going to ****?? Is there any truth to it??

Because in US/North America forums here and other forums I've read so many good things like good pay, good rosters and good QoL and working conditions etc etc. And what about the pilot shortage??? Does the new 1500hrs restriction really cause a greater need for pilots??
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Why is this website soooo doom and gloom especially in europeana and ME sections??

Alot of the guys saying that aviation globally is just going to ****?? Is there any truth to it??

Because in US/North America forums here and other forums I've read so many good things like good pay, good rosters and good QoL and working conditions etc etc. And what about the pilot shortage??? Does the new 1500hrs restriction really cause a greater need for pilots??
In the USA the legacy/majors basically stopped hiring for 10 years or so in the early 90's. As a result there is a huge mandatory retirement wave starting next year continuing for approximately 10 years.

Most other countries continued to hire during the above mentioned period so there isn't such an emphasis placed on the retiring pilots. Additionally the 1500 hour rule coupled with the terrible wages at regionals up until recently slowed the amount of people taking up pilot training.

Hope this helps. There's another website that goes by the name of APC, and you can scroll though and it shows the size of the seniority list and the amount of proposed retirements each year just to get a feel for the market ahead.
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Originally Posted by Ahmedanator
Hi I am muslim. I am an aspiring pilot in America. With the charged/heated environment currently in America I am beginning to second guess my dream career choice. I want to know what airline has liberal hiring policies and what airline hires diverse pool of open minded people.
I really want to change the societal stigma that is associated with muslims, airports and airplanes. I mean you have to be a muslim at a western airport to really know what Im talking about.

Or if American society really won't accept me as a pilot. Then what other country airlines would be good options?? I had thought about Emirates or Etihad or Qatar but to my dismay they have poor Quality of Life.

I know about shaving, time away from home etc etc

So basically. I am muslim. Have the aviation bug. Want to have a good professional life. But am overwhelmed and outspoken in face of tons of movies, tv and news showing the muslim as the other and the evil.

Need help as Im nearly done with high school.

I'm a Muslim too. Here's my story.

Sept 2001 was 17 yrs old and just started senior year high school. My college apps were ready for Embry Riddle, Jacksonville University (Comair Academy), and Florida Tech. These were 4 yr flight school/college degree programs (Aviation Science). Just several days later 9/11 happened and then thousands were laid off and the airline industry entered one of its most tumultuous times in history. At the time, I had done an intro flight in Summer '01 but no official flight training. I decided to switch gears and applied to a large state university and did engineering as a career backup to aviation. Because I was a green card holder at the time, I didn't pursue flight training in 2001. 2002 I became a US citizen and 2003 I started as student pilot.

Going through Private, Instrument, Commercial and Multi, not once did I ever face discrimination, made fun of, joked with, harassed, questioned, or put down for being Muslim. Religion hardly ever came up. People saw I was highly motivated, eager to learn, and wanted to pursue a career in aviation. Even my father told me I was living in a fantasy land and that no US airline would ever hire me after 9/11. I never let that stop me. In 2007 at 23 I was hired at a regional, first airline pilot interview and passed first attempt. In 2012 at 27 I interviewed with my current employer and passed the interview first time. My religion never came up anywhere, nor was I ever discriminated against, or ever felt put down. It just never happened. Today I'm an A320 CA at a legacy US airline. Aviation is a tight knit community and in my experience, a pretty fair community that gives anyone a chance if they're willing to work hard at it.


Moral of the story: Go for it! Nothing is stopping you.
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