Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > North America
Reload this Page >

FAA PPL/CPL based on foreign licence

Wikiposts
Search
North America Still the busiest region for commercial aviation.

FAA PPL/CPL based on foreign licence

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 4th Apr 2019, 16:44
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: europe
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
FAA PPL/CPL based on foreign licence

Good evening gentlemen,

I need some info regarding FAA licensing based on a foreign certificate.

Long story short : in 2004 I was issued an FAA PPL based on my Italian CPL.

I went to california for a month after all the TSA screening (visa,fingerprints and so forth),did theory and flying exams and got an FAA CPL.

Now,since those days things in europe have changed,we moved from national licensing to JAR first and then EASA,I still have my FAA PPL based on the old italian licence.

Now,I have a bought a beautiful cessna registered N,and I got my class 3 FAA medical as it makes no sense to do a class 2.

The question,if anyone can help,is: How do I change my FAA PPL from stating that it is no longer based on the old Italian CPL but on the now EASA CPL?

the licence is the same,it's just called a different way.

Many thanks to all those who can help.

A.
PrivateAviator is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2019, 16:48
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 460
Likes: 0
Received 46 Likes on 20 Posts
Originally Posted by PrivateAviator
Good evening gentlemen,

I need some info regarding FAA licensing based on a foreign certificate.

Long story short : in 2004 I was issued an FAA PPL based on my Italian CPL.

I went to california for a month after all the TSA screening (visa,fingerprints and so forth),did theory and flying exams and got an FAA CPL.

Now,since those days things in europe have changed,we moved from national licensing to JAR first and then EASA,I still have my FAA PPL based on the old italian licence.

Now,I have a bought a beautiful cessna registered N,and I got my class 3 FAA medical as it makes no sense to do a class 2.

The question,if anyone can help,is: How do I change my FAA PPL from stating that it is no longer based on the old Italian CPL but on the now EASA CPL?

the licence is the same,it's just called a different way.

Many thanks to all those who can help.

A.
you have to submit a new application and go through the process again if you want it to change the license it’s based on.
havick is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2019, 17:18
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: london
Age: 60
Posts: 439
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
>I went to california for a month after all the TSA screening (visa,fingerprints and so forth),did theory and flying exams and got an FAA CPL.

So you have an FAA licence anyway? why worry about having a 61.75 private?
custardpsc is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2019, 17:28
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 460
Likes: 0
Received 46 Likes on 20 Posts
Originally Posted by custardpsc
>I went to california for a month after all the TSA screening (visa,fingerprints and so forth),did theory and flying exams and got an FAA CPL.

So you have an FAA licence anyway? why worry about having a 61.75 private?
im guessing they don’t want to have to do an FAA Medical again to use the stand alone FAA license
havick is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2019, 18:16
  #5 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: europe
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
[QUOTE So you have an FAA licence anyway? why worry about having a 61.75 private?[/QUOTE]

The only reason is that class 3 is cheaper,less restrictive (no need to wear lenses) and less often.

for the rest I really don't care,as long as I can fly with my CPL licence in the pocket but hold a classe 3 medical as I'm actually flying privately.

I just dont want to have any trouble flying around

PrivateAviator is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2019, 18:55
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 460
Likes: 0
Received 46 Likes on 20 Posts
Originally Posted by PrivateAviator
[QUOTE So you have an FAA licence anyway? why worry about having a 61.75 private?
The only reason is that class 3 is cheaper,less restrictive (no need to wear lenses) and less often.

for the rest I really don't care,as long as I can fly with my CPL licence in the pocket but hold a classe 3 medical as I'm actually flying privately.

I just dont want to have any trouble flying around[/QUOTE]

using your 61.75 you need a current medical from THAT country.

your FAA stand alone you need an FAA Medical that’s it.

im not sure why you would bother trying to use your 61.75 license than your stand alone license.
havick is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2019, 12:12
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Lander, WY, USA
Posts: 286
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
What they said...…..just to clarify, you may legally fly with your FAA CPL and a Class 3 medical, as long as you limit your operations to PPL level privileges, so no flying for hire or compensation, i.e., "private" flying only. Not a big deal, plenty of pilots with advanced FAA licenses (CPL, even ATP), say, a retired airline pilot for example, flying (private privileges only) with a Class 3 medical.

Edit: oops, I just realized, this would hold true for flying in the U.S., but, perhaps the OP means to fly his N-registered plane in Europe? In that case, I don't have any idea how EASA and FAA rules fit together!
340drvr is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2019, 14:09
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Augusta, Georgia, USA (back from Germany again)
Posts: 234
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
In FAA Land every certificate includes the privileges of lower certificates: light sport < private < commercial < ATP. You may only exercise the privileges of any level with the appropriate medical.

One of the requirements to get a commercial certificate is to already have a private certificate. The 61.75 private ticket fulfilled that requirement.

In the OP's case, since the underlying license has changed and is no longer the same number referenced on the 61.75 private certificate, the private is no longer valid. However, since the commercial certificate is completely independent of anything else, it will function just fine indefinitely provided the holder does a current 61.56 flight review and has a valid medical. In FAA Land, EASA Land, or the rest of ICAO Land.

(The above would make him FAA-legal to fly an N-registered airplane. Local rules about keeping, owning, or basing N-reg in EASA Land will also apply.)

Enjoy flying!
LTCTerry is offline  
Old 5th Apr 2019, 14:23
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: USA
Posts: 460
Likes: 0
Received 46 Likes on 20 Posts
Originally Posted by LTCTerry
In FAA Land every certificate includes the privileges of lower certificates: light sport < private < commercial < ATP. You may only exercise the privileges of any level with the appropriate medical.

One of the requirements to get a commercial certificate is to already have a private certificate. The 61.75 private ticket fulfilled that requirement.

In the OP's case, since the underlying license has changed and is no longer the same number referenced on the 61.75 private certificate, the private is no longer valid. However, since the commercial certificate is completely independent of anything else, it will function just fine indefinitely provided the holder does a current 61.56 flight review and has a valid medical. In FAA Land, EASA Land, or the rest of ICAO Land.

(The above would make him FAA-legal to fly an N-registered airplane. Local rules about keeping, owning, or basing N-reg in EASA Land will also apply.)

Enjoy flying!
Beware this is not entirely correct.

OP can only use their EASA medical in the FAA either flying a European registered aircraft or using a 61.75 FAA private based on that foreign license.

if not exercising the 61.75 issues license, which in this case now the numbers don’t match so the license is invalid, then they will need to use their stand alone FAA license. In this case they need an FAA Medical.

you can’t use your foreign medical to fly on an FAA stand alone license.
havick is offline  
Old 10th Apr 2019, 22:46
  #10 (permalink)  
BGQ
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Wanaka
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by PrivateAviator
Good evening gentlemen,

I need some info regarding FAA licensing based on a foreign certificate.

Long story short : in 2004 I was issued an FAA PPL based on my Italian CPL.

I went to california for a month after all the TSA screening (visa,fingerprints and so forth),did theory and flying exams and got an FAA CPL.

Now,since those days things in europe have changed,we moved from national licensing to JAR first and then EASA,I still have my FAA PPL based on the old italian licence.

Now,I have a bought a beautiful cessna registered N,and I got my class 3 FAA medical as it makes no sense to do a class 2.

The question,if anyone can help,is: How do I change my FAA PPL from stating that it is no longer based on the old Italian CPL but on the now EASA CPL?

the licence is the same,it's just called a different way.

Many thanks to all those who can help.

A.
Isn't there a provision in the FAA regs that allows you to fly an N registered aircraft in a foreign country on the foreign license of that country?

I understand that to be the case but cannot find the rule

BGQ is offline  
Old 11th Apr 2019, 02:02
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Mare Nostrum
Age: 41
Posts: 1,427
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by BGQ
Isn't there a provision in the FAA regs that allows you to fly an N registered aircraft in a foreign country on the foreign license of that country?

I understand that to be the case but cannot find the rule
yes, as long as you fly in a foreign country and you use a pilot license issued by the same country.

FAR 61.3 (v)
zondaracer is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.