Convert FAA license to TCCA(Canada)

[YANGTSUNGHSUAN]

Hello Everyone:

I’m YANG. I got my FAA CPL with multi engine land and instrument rating in U.S. recently.
I don't have CPL with single engine land. (I have several Commercial pilot training hours in single engine land)
I plan to convert my license to Canadian license and get the instructor rating there.

Here is things I read: (I meet all requirements.)

• Transport Canada AC 401-001 6.2. In this section, the requirements in this section only said “Must hold a FAA Commercial airman certificate with airplane category and class rating(s)”.
• CAR 421.69 Flight instructor rating Class 4 Aeroplane requirements, it said what I need is total flight time 200 hours and instrument time 20 hours.

I already sent the email to several schools. I got two answers.

1. The first one said I can only convert to PPL with multi engine and instrument rating if I don't have any single engine training associated with my CPL. Given the amount of flight time I have, it shouldn’t be too difficult for me to obtain a TCCA CPL with the associated training.
2. The other said If you did not have single engine IFR, then the conversion is only for Multi-Engine IFR. As for instructor rating course, we do not require Single Engine IFR. It’s just that when teaching students IFR, you can only teach them Multi-IFR rating.

My question is if I successfully convert CPL with multi engine and instrument rating, do I need additional training about CPL with single engine ? TCCA CPL is typically single engine.
According to the second school said, if I get the instructor rating, can I teach PPL(single engine VFR)?

Thanks.

[lee_apromise]

Originally Posted by YANGTSUNGHSUAN

Hello Everyone:

I’m YANG. I got my FAA CPL with multi engine land and instrument rating in U.S. recently.
I don't have CPL with single engine land. (I have several Commercial pilot training hours in single engine land)
I plan to convert my license to Canadian license and get the instructor rating there.

Here is things I read: (I meet all requirements.)

• Transport Canada AC 401-001 6.2. In this section, the requirements in this section only said “Must hold a FAA Commercial airman certificate with airplane category and class rating(s)”.
• CAR 421.69 Flight instructor rating Class 4 Aeroplane requirements, it said what I need is total flight time 200 hours and instrument time 20 hours.

I already sent the email to several schools. I got two answers.

1. The first one said I can only convert to PPL with multi engine and instrument rating if I don't have any single engine training associated with my CPL. Given the amount of flight time I have, it shouldn’t be too difficult for me to obtain a TCCA CPL with the associated training.
2. The other said If you did not have single engine IFR, then the conversion is only for Multi-Engine IFR. As for instructor rating course, we do not require Single Engine IFR. It’s just that when teaching students IFR, you can only teach them Multi-IFR rating.

My question is if I successfully convert CPL with multi engine and instrument rating, do I need additional training about CPL with single engine ? TCCA CPL is typically single engine.
According to the second school said, if I get the instructor rating, can I teach PPL(single engine VFR)?

Thanks.

I did FAA commercial multi engine conversion to TC. TC does not differentiate between ME-CPL or SE-CPL. Once you convert, you will have TC CPL with both single and multi engine ratings.

As for instrument rating, they do differentiate between ME and SE. If you want Group 1 instrument rating which is multi-engine instrument rating, you will have to provide a proof that you have passed FAA IR in a multi engine airplane or do a FAA IPC in a multi engine airplane (You can do holding, intercepting, precision and non-precision approach in a flying school sim, just do a circling approach in an actual multi engine airplane, it will suffice).

[flyingcrankshaft]

Hey guys,

I am also thinking about converting my FAA CPL to TC CPL.

YANGTSUNGHSUAN: Have to you taken the exam? Could you share what are you tested on? Have you gotten your TC CPL?

lee_apromise: When did you do the conversion? Do you still remember what was tested? And how long did it take to get your TC CPL after completing the exam?

[lee_apromise]

Originally Posted by flyingcrankshaft

Hey guys,

I am also thinking about converting my FAA CPL to TC CPL.

YANGTSUNGHSUAN: Have to you taken the exam? Could you share what are you tested on? Have you gotten your TC CPL?

lee_apromise: When did you do the conversion? Do you still remember what was tested? And how long did it take to get your TC CPL after completing the exam?

I did CPL conversion 2 years ago. The written test was only covering Canadian regulations. After passing the written and submitting all the paperworks, it took like 3 weeks to receive the actual license. I'm going through FAA to TC ATPL conversion right now. Doing the same thing all over again. Pilottraining.ca is the way to go to prep yourself for the written test.

[flyingcrankshaft]

Originally Posted by lee_apromise

I did CPL conversion 2 years ago. The written test was only covering Canadian regulations. After passing the written and submitting all the paperworks, it took like 3 weeks to receive the actual license. I'm going through FAA to TC ATPL conversion right now. Doing the same thing all over again. Pilottraining.ca is the way to go to prep yourself for the written test.

lee_apromise, Thanks for the reply. I will check it out.

Just curious, why did get a FAA ATPL then convert to TC ATPL? I assume you already have TC CPL which would allow you to get a TC ATPL without needing to do a conversion. Is there an advantage to it?

[lee_apromise]

Originally Posted by flyingcrankshaft

lee_apromise, Thanks for the reply. I will check it out.

Just curious, why did get a FAA ATPL then convert to TC ATPL? I assume you already have TC CPL which would allow you to get a TC ATPL without needing to do a conversion. Is there an advantage to it?

I got FAA ATPL through airline training. I don't want to do TC ATPL written tests (SAMRA and SARON). FAA to TC is a much easier process than doing 2 full written tests.

[bflyer]

Hello

what about the medical check?...is a class 1 FAA medical automatically accepted or do I have to get a Canadian medical

[bafanguy]

Originally Posted by bflyer

Hello

what about the medical check?...is a class 1 FAA medical automatically accepted or do I have to get a Canadian medical

Here ya go:

12. ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEDURE TO CONVERT AN FAA PILOT CERTIFICATE FOR A TCCA PILOT LICENSE.

a. Medical Certificate. An applicant is required to obtain a Canadian Medical Certificate, either Category 1 or Category 3, appropriate to the license to be requested. The medical certificate can be requested as follows:

•The applicant may submit either the original or certified copies of the FAA medical examination reports directly to the Civil Aviation Medicine Branch of Transport Canada, Headquarters in Ottawa for processing and assessment (see paragraph 8 for the full address);

or •The applicant may complete an aviation medical examination with a delegated Canadian Civil Aviation Medical Examiner.








https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...AC_61-135A.pdf

[babypenguin]

Originally Posted by lee_apromise

I did FAA commercial multi engine conversion to TC. TC does not differentiate between ME-CPL or SE-CPL. Once you convert, you will have TC CPL with both single and multi engine ratings.

As for instrument rating, they do differentiate between ME and SE. If you want Group 1 instrument rating which is multi-engine instrument rating, you will have to provide a proof that you have passed FAA IR in a multi engine airplane or do a FAA IPC in a multi engine airplane (You can do holding, intercepting, precision and non-precision approach in a flying school sim, just do a circling approach in an actual multi engine airplane, it will suffice).

Hi, I wanted to ask when you do the conversion do you have to be instrument current?
For example, I did my FAA multi IFR checkride in May 2019, and in September 2020 I wanted to convert to TCCA. Do I need to fly Multi IFR again?
(I did my instrument proficiency check in a single-engine in March 2020, so I am current now)

[Jorge1986]

Help

hello lee_apromise

I was hoping you could help me. I have my FAAAA written exam soon in order to convert my FAA ATPL to TCCA. I wanted to ask you “What do you provide as proof that you have passed an FAA IR/IPC in a multi engine aircraft?” In my case I have passed my FAA ATPL Checkride with an approved simulator for the A-320. So whats the right document to provide? If you could help me it would be greatly appreciated.

Originally Posted by lee_apromise

I did FAA commercial multi engine conversion to TC. TC does not differentiate between ME-CPL or SE-CPL. Once you convert, you will have TC CPL with both single and multi engine ratings.

As for instrument rating, they do differentiate between ME and SE. If you want Group 1 instrument rating which is multi-engine instrument rating, you will have to provide a proof that you have passed FAA IR in a multi engine airplane or do a FAA IPC in a multi engine airplane (You can do holding, intercepting, precision and non-precision approach in a flying school sim, just do a circling approach in an actual multi engine airplane, it will suffice).

[awair]

You should have a training report indicating that you passed a 61.58 check-ride.

Transport Canada are asking for 61.57 (IPC), but the US school insist that the documented 61.58 meets this requirement.

When is your written exam scheduled? I've been waiting a while...

Good luck.

[Jorge1986]

Thanks for your response.
I have my written at the end of this month, the wait list is huge so I can’t fail... I have been studying with Nizus (online website), have you heard of it? Or what do you recommend me to study?

Regarding to the training report, I have a Certificate “A320 Upgrade Type Rating” from the Training Center certifying the training is completed and approved by the FAA, but that’s it, it does not say I have passed the 61.58 check-ride. It’s confusing because it’s kind of logical because I have the Upgrade certificate (upgrade means operating as PIC) but it doesn’t mention “61.58” anywhere on the certificate. Do you think this certificate is enough for TC?

Thanks again for your help.
Cheers

[lee_apromise]

Originally Posted by Jorge1986

hello lee_apromise

I was hoping you could help me. I have my FAAAA written exam soon in order to convert my FAA ATPL to TCCA. I wanted to ask you “What do you provide as proof that you have passed an FAA IR/IPC in a multi engine aircraft?” In my case I have passed my FAA ATPL Checkride with an approved simulator for the A-320. So whats the right document to provide? If you could help me it would be greatly appreciated.

Your FAA ATP checkride documents from IACRA will do since 61.57(d) is for IPC, not for ATP ride. TC knows FAA ATP ride includes IPC.

[Dread Pilot Roberts]

I know this is an older thread but the first question should be do you have the right to work in Canada?
Pilot Forums like this one are filled with people asking about converting licences and working in other countries and this is usually the last thing asked or answered.

Go ahead convert your licence every school will "help" you do it but unless you can use it for hire or have another reason (private flying) what's the point.

[bafanguy]

Originally Posted by Dread Pilot Roberts

Go ahead convert your licence every school will "help" you do it but unless you can use it for hire or have another reason (private flying) what's the point.

DRP,

That's certainly a valid point you make but...I'd not want to discourage the young folks from expanding their horizons (and future possibilities) by having more licenses from more countries. And the FAA-TCCA conversion is pretty low stress, low expense and effort.

I wouldn't want to discourage the young folks who are full of pi$$ and vinegar from creating qualifications for themselves.

I say go for it.

[Hotoffthepress]

Anyone have any recent experience with the FAAAA exam?

I've got the Nizus tests and have powered through the CARs and AIM. However folks keep recommending the Pilottraining.ca - Do they also have a QB?

Cheers