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Old 5th Mar 2020, 18:43
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Originally Posted by Neufunk View Post
iirc there is no such thing. You must not be 27 by the 1st of July the year you graduate. No waivers as it is in the Constitution.
None of the US military Academies are even mentioned in the Constitution, let alone specifying age limits.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 18:46
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Originally Posted by bafanguy View Post
Not making all that much headway apparently:

"Top Air Force leaders have said since at least 2017 that they were facing a roughly 2,000-pilot shortfall, indicating the situation has not improved and in fact, may have gotten a little worse."

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/y...lot-shortfall/

Wait ... back in August, they said they had it under control ... now they don't? I'm so confused.
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Old 5th Mar 2020, 19:08
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Might've got my sources wrong.

Anyway, I know that the age-restriction is pretty much unwaiverable except for some extremely rare prior-enlisted cases.
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Old 6th Mar 2020, 16:34
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Maybe the USAF needs a pilot officer program. Recruit 18 year olds out of high school. (I believe the Israelis start flight school at 18.) You can have a year of higher level math and science training, 40 hours of flight school, etc. over a 12-month period. Successful candidates go to flight school as Pilot Officers and get commissioned upon graduation/wings. Then, after several years of flying they can be offered a chance to complete a degree. Without a degree they are not desirable for the airlines. Generally only about half a degree is required for a commission.

The Navy Reserve does a very good job of integrating Reservists into active duty squadrons - so I've been told, no first-hand knowledge. The USAF's reserve component flies almost all the tanker missions. Perhaps a longer reserve commitment would keep people around. They can fly a few days a month. The Air National Guard once had an advertisement with the claim they flew 40% as much as the USAF at 10% of the cost. That's only because the AF provides the schools, the airplanes, and the broader infrastructure, but there's merit.

I disagree with the "up or out" policy we have w/in DoD. Some Army Captains are great company commanders, but no cut out to be the Ops Officer for a battalion. Let someone do a career as a captain. Change the retirement system. Sometimes you need crazy ideas if you want radical changes.
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 03:36
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Without a degree they are not desirable for the airlines.
Not having a degree isn't much of an impediment for an airline job these days.
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 09:19
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Originally Posted by A Squared View Post
Not having a degree isn't much of an impediment for an airline job these days.
AxA,

And one might even postulate that it's an advantage at some levels. There are a couple of pretty good LCCs here that are allegedly very touchy about being used as a steppingstone to the legacies. If the legacies continue to be unwilling to forego the degree requirement, a person without one might look like more of a long term prospect as an employee at a LCC.

Just a theory...
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Old 7th Mar 2020, 18:27
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Originally Posted by bafanguy View Post
AxA,

And one might even postulate that it's an advantage at some levels. There are a couple of pretty good LCCs here that are allegedly very touchy about being used as a steppingstone to the legacies. If the legacies continue to be unwilling to forego the degree requirement, a person without one might look like more of a long term prospect as an employee at a LCC.

Just a theory...
Yeah, probably some truth to that.
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Old 15th May 2020, 20:21
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Well, it appears the military pilot deficit has been solved...probably for several years. I suspect people are trying to get back in.
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Old 15th May 2020, 20:24
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Originally Posted by bafanguy View Post
Well, it appears the military pilot deficit has been solved...probably for several years. I suspect people are trying to get back in.
Yeah, was just following a conversation on this elsewhere. You know that somewhere, someone is going to be saying *look, the stuff we did to improve retention is working !!!! "
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Old 15th May 2020, 20:58
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Yeah, was just following a conversation on this elsewhere. You know that somewhere, someone is going to be saying *look, the stuff we did to improve retention is working !!!! "
AxA,

Yep. Chairman Barack's Myrmidon-in-Chief, Rahm Emmanuel, famously said:

“President Obama’s chief of staff Rahm Emanuel famously said in 2008, ‘You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. I mean, it’s an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.’”

The application of this principle is utilitarian and universal. Sometimes we get to laugh but mostly we don't.

https://www.lexingtonchronicle.com/b...risis-go-waste
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