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Old 15th Feb 2020, 12:55
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Originally Posted by bafanguy View Post
Z,

Understand. So they must be flying the occasional charter rather than letting the airplane sit and deteriorate ?
They might do a charter here or there. Their website still lists contact info for charters, but their flight history shows very little flying. In the past two weeks they just did a short repositioning flight. I do know that they need to maintain a minimum management structure (Chief Pilot, DO, Head of Maintenance etc) just time keep the 121 certificate active.
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Old 15th Feb 2020, 18:45
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Avatar Airlines is back baby! The convicted felon (14mo served), Barry Michael, who also has a degree in chiropractic, claims to have signed an LoI with Boeing. I wonder if Boeing knows that??? 30x 747-8i aircraft to fly domestic US routes for $19. Even has an almost professional-looking info memo: https://avatarairlines.com/wp-conten...ISED111819.pdf

Need to take this numb nut down before he takes anyone's money.

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Old 16th Feb 2020, 00:39
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He wants to use 747-8s, not triple Sevens. Says he can run a four engine plane cheaper on short two or three hour legs. Just try to wrap your head around that. I saw a web page where his VP of Flight Ops, who has both Classic and 400 Seven Four types and has been with him for a couple decades, was responding to questions about the operation. It was entertaining reading. The VP hasn’t got a medical for the last several years, probably because he’s certifiably crazy.
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Old 16th Feb 2020, 06:47
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Originally Posted by MarkerInbound View Post
He wants to use 747-8s, not triple Sevens. Says he can run a four engine plane cheaper on short two or three hour legs. Just try to wrap your head around that. I saw a web page where his VP of Flight Ops, who has both Classic and 400 Seven Four types and has been with him for a couple decades, was responding to questions about the operation. It was entertaining reading. The VP hasnít got a medical for the last several years, probably because heís certifiably crazy.
Sorry, my typo. 747-8i, not 777s. He claims he will own 30x by year 3 but in his IM, he has the value of aircraft assets at $580m so it would seem his LoI with Boeing is ~$19.3m each. Less than half a new Max! Thatís a great deal! 🤪
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Old 16th Feb 2020, 07:20
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Originally Posted by flyandski View Post
Sorry, my typo. 747-8i, not 777s. He claims he will own 30x by year 3 but in his IM, he has the value of aircraft assets at $580m so it would seem his LoI with Boeing is ~$19.3m each. Less than half a new Max! Thatís a great deal! 🤪
Oh God, now I will have to scan this 455pg file they submitted to the US DoT: https://avatarairlines.com/wp-conten...W-EXHIBITS.pdf
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Old 16th Feb 2020, 09:57
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In other breaking news, Sky Palace Airways has delayed its debut:

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...s-to-late-2q20
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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 13:49
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Can anyone direct me to or share Breeze Aviation Group's DoT application please?
Interested to read the document.
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Old 22nd Feb 2020, 21:22
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Can anyone direct me to or share Breeze Aviation Group's DoT application please?
Interested to read the document.
🤔 canít seem to find it either. It it public?
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Old 23rd Feb 2020, 10:22
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Originally Posted by misterbe View Post
Can anyone direct me to or share Breeze Aviation Group's DoT application please?
Interested to read the document.

How about this ? I haven't read it because it's probably too long for my attention span:

https://www.regulations.gov/document...2020-0019-0001
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Old 4th Jun 2020, 10:41
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The latest on Midwest Express. Hope springs eternal ?:

https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...head-of-launch
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