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Converting ICAO to FAA

Old 18th Jun 2018, 13:52
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Looking for b777 reduce course sim partner

hello
I am converting my caa ATPL into faa ATPL . I have done with my atp ctp and exam . I am looking for a sim partner for b777 . I am planning to do it in panam flight academy in Miami next month . It ll cost u around 8000 US dollars. If anyone interested please contact me .
Thank u
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Old 9th May 2019, 22:06
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how to get B737NG typed in FAA CPL from ICAO CPL

I am an FAA CPL + ME holder. After completion of the training I went back home and I converted my license. So now I have Georgian ICAO license as well. One year later I got hired by a company and I got type rated on the Boeing 737 NG (+ basic training) in Vilnius, Lithuania. Now I have my 200 training hours, the B737 sim time and just a few hours flown on the airplane.
I would like to have the B737 type rating in the FAA license as well. So could You please tell me the easiest way to get it done.
I greatly appreciate your help!
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Old 10th May 2019, 14:05
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Hello

I am also interested in converting my license to FAA ATP.

I have a green card. I am eligible to work in the USA

I know all the procedure what should I follow but I want to avoid paying 12-14K for the conversion. Most of the regionals provide free ATP/CTP course and type rating so that an FAA CPL holder pays nothing for the process. I am actually in the same position as them. I have 2500 hours Boeing 737 flying experience. I think I can be a good match for the regionals.

Do you know any company guys which can help me with my case? I tried to apply some regionals but they declined my application.

Thank you.
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Old 10th May 2019, 16:36
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There is no direct transfer of type ratings to FAA certificates unless it is from a Canadian license or you are doing the 61.75 private "based on" certificate. You will have to complete a FAA part 142 training center's ground school and simulator program. How long the training program is (and how much it costs) depends on how the training center counts your experience to meet their requirements.
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Old 13th Aug 2019, 19:38
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What happens if you donít have a current IR and are wanting to do the ATP-CTP training? Does the simulator component/check ride get you an FAA IR?
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 00:32
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The 10 hours of ATP-CTP simulator time are just to reinforce the ideas covered in the classroom. There's 4 hours of intro to FMS, low vis taxiing, upset recovery and stall training. It's not a checkride and does not get you anything except the qualification to take the ATM written test.
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Old 14th Aug 2019, 00:50
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Hello guys, I have an FAA Commercial MEL licence, and ICAO ATP with 4000 hours PIC on A320, can you please recommend the chipest was to get my full FAA ATP?
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Old 16th Aug 2019, 08:47
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MD83FO, the way is the same, as if you didn’t have FAA CPL ME.
You should pass ATP-CPT, ATP M written, then pass your ATP check-ride. Check-ride could be either on little twin, or on A320 but on the last you will have to pass Reduced TR.

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Old 17th Aug 2019, 11:50
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Iurii is correct. The other way to look at it is that it is the same procedure as if you did not have your ICAO ATP. Complete the CTP class, pass the written test and pass the checkride. There is no short cut to a FAA ATP.
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Old 7th Sep 2019, 17:20
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Not sure how much help this would be. There's a lot of stuff in it. It may create more questions than it answers:


Section 14 Issue a Part 61 U.S. Pilot Certificate on the Basis of a Foreign Pilot License


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Old 7th Sep 2019, 19:46
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Here is a good one.

I did an FAA type rating on the A320 at Pan Am Florida in 2014. I didn't have an FAA certificate at the time as I was only licensed in Australia. Australia accept FAA ratings so its on my Australian certificate.

I now have an FAA ATP and am looking for a way to get the 320 put on the FAA certificate. Thr FSDO keeps telling me they dont convert foreign type ratings and I almost lose my cool telling them the rating was done in a US certified simulator by an FAA instructor in the USA.

Help please
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Old 7th Sep 2019, 20:08
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Originally Posted by pilotchute View Post
I now have an FAA ATP and am looking for a way to get the 320 put on the FAA certificate. Thr FSDO keeps telling me they dont convert foreign type ratings and I almost lose my cool telling them the rating was done in a US certified simulator by an FAA instructor in the USA.

Help please
'chute,

This stuff is just one rabbit hole after another ! And you can get a different answer depending on which FSDO; these folks do make mistakes. This below is the only thing I can find from the link I posted up in #30. And I suspect the term "rating" is more for something like IR or MEL rather than type rating...but who knows. MarkerInbound seems very knowledgeable about this stuff. Maybe he'll read your request and chime in:

5-597 U.S. PILOT CERTIFICATES THAT MAY BE ISSUED TO A PERSON WHO HOLDS A FOREIGN PILOT LICENSE.

I. Added Ratings to a U.S. Pilot Certificate. If a person requests that a rating be added to his or her U.S. pilot certificate on the basis of meeting the appropriate pilot certification requirements of part 61 (i.e., the practical test and the knowledge test, if applicable), those requirements must be accomplished before the issuance of that additional rating. However, if the person requests the added rating on the basis of that rating having been added to his or her foreign pilot license, no knowledge test or practical test is required. The authenticity of the foreign license must be verified before adding the appropriate rating.
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Old 7th Sep 2019, 20:11
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Pilotchute, unfortunately the FSDO is correct. The DPE/ADP/inspector that issued your ATP would have had to issue the A320 type rating at that time and certified that you completed the type rating course under part 142 (or part 121 or 135 where applicable). If you did not do a part 142 course for the type rating, and only did a course for the ATP, despite the fact that you did it in an A320 simulator, you cannot have the A320 type rating added. The FAA does not convert type ratings and you need to do the full course and have it certified as such.
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Old 7th Sep 2019, 20:15
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The addition of a type rating based on a foreign type rating is possible as outlined by bafanguy, but only valid for VMC only. Also, this would be added to a 61.75 certificate. Since you have an ATP certificate issued under 61.153, it would not apply.
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Old 7th Sep 2019, 20:35
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Zondaracer,
I did do a full FAA approved training course and type ride for the 320 at a part 142 school (Pan Am).

The company check airman for my US Regional that just did my FAA ATP with 145 check ride didnt add 320 to paperwork because he didnt do the training.

The FSDO is saying its a foreign type rating because its on my foreign pilot certificate.

I show them the training records from Pan Am and they get really confused and just keep saying its on my foreign certificate and they dont convert.
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Old 7th Sep 2019, 21:01
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Originally Posted by pilotchute View Post
Zondaracer,
I did do a full FAA approved training course and type ride for the 320 at a part 142 school (Pan Am).

The company check airman for my US Regional that just did my FAA ATP with 145 check ride didnt add 320 to paperwork because he didnt do the training.

The FSDO is saying its a foreign type rating because its on my foreign pilot certificate.

I show them the training records from Pan Am and they get really confused and just keep saying its on my foreign certificate and they dont convert.
Why wasnít the type rating added at PanAm when you completed the course?
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Old 7th Sep 2019, 21:26
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Originally Posted by pilotchute View Post
I did an FAA type rating on the A320 at Pan Am Florida in 2014. I didn't have an FAA certificate at the time as I was only licensed in Australia. Australia accept FAA ratings so its on my Australian certificate.
So, the Pan Am examiner was authorized to add the type rating directly to a CASA license ? Or did you have to send some US paperwork to CASA to get the rating put on your Aussie license ?

And Australia accepts FAA type ratings but FAA doesn't accept CASA type ratings ? That's...awkward.
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Old 7th Sep 2019, 22:55
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I have just been informed that because I didnt have an FAA pilot cert of any kind when I did the 320 type ride its like it never happened.

Funnily enough Pan Am have just told me if I book in for a proficiency check they will add the type to my certificate!!
And yes Australia recognizes FAA training for type rating purposes.
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Old 7th Sep 2019, 23:11
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Originally Posted by pilotchute View Post
I have just been informed that because I didnt have an FAA pilot cert of any kind when I did the 320 type ride its like it never happened.

Funnily enough Pan Am have just told me if I book in for a proficiency check they will add the type to my certificate!!
And yes Australia recognizes FAA training for type rating purposes.
thats sort of true. CASA only accepts faa type ratings depending on the sim itself, what approvals the training organization has and then what casa themselves approve etc. thereís a lot more too it than you think on that front.

im assuming the reason you didnít do your FAA ATP license at pan am at the time was the fact you either didnít meet FAA ATP mins or hadnít completed the ATP-CTP course (token but expensive) and the ATP written. Otherwise you could have done your FAA ATP flight test at the same time as your A320 type ride and CASA type ride, but thatís 20/20 hindsight.



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Old 8th Sep 2019, 01:56
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Yes unfortunately I was a bit short on night hours at the time (only 50).

Was worth a try.

Thanks everyone
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