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Old 20th Oct 2019, 15:33
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The federal government is hard at work solving the pilot shortage by reintroducing a bill from last year. By producing regional pilot candidates from the look of the thumbnail sketch of the bill:

"Democrat Tammy Baldwin, along with Sen. John Hoewven, R-N.D., has reintroduced the American Aviator Act that would offer funding for veterans to train to become airline pilots."

“Veterans participating in the program will receive flight training necessary to become a commercial pilot and receive other certifications, including to work as a certified flight instructor,” Baldwin said in a news release.


https://www.avweb.com/flight-safety/...-for-veterans/


https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...bill/3322/text

(b) Eligible entity.—For purposes of this section, the term “eligible entity” means a pilot school that—

(1) holds a training certificate under part 141 of title 14, Code of Federal Regulations; and

(2) has an established employment pathway with at least one commercial air carrier operating under part 121 or 135 of title 14, Code of Federal Regulations.



How is this different from the DOT's Forces to Flyers program ? Which has produced all of 44 students ?:

January 2019 Update

The 44 slots for veterans to participate have all been filled and the participants have begun their training to become commercial airline pilots. There are no slots available for additional participants.

https://www.volpe.dot.gov/forcestoflyers

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Old 20th Oct 2019, 16:06
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44 slots is pretty useless when most regionals are hiring more than that in a single class.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 16:50
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44 slots is pretty useless when most regionals are hiring more than that in a single class.
Yep. I wonder how many the American Aviator Act (S.3322) could produce for $5M/year:

(g) Appropriations.—To carry out this section, there is authorized to be appropriated $5,000,000 for each of the fiscal years 2019 through 2021.

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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 22:28
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Originally Posted by bafanguy View Post
Yep. I wonder how many the American Aviator Act (S.3322) could produce for $5M/year:

(g) Appropriations.—To carry out this section, there is authorized to be appropriated $5,000,000 for each of the fiscal years 2019 through 2021.
still it’s better than nothing for a lucky few, I bet they appreciate the leg up.
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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 22:45
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still it’s better than nothing for a lucky few, I bet they appreciate the leg up.
Yes, it would be a boost for the small number of people able to take advantage of the program. I'm just very leery of the Imperial Federal Government getting involved in private sector issues.

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Old 22nd Oct 2019, 23:47
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Just tinkering around the edges......

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Old 23rd Oct 2019, 03:56
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Originally Posted by bafanguy View Post
Yep. I wonder how many the American Aviator Act (S.3322) could produce for $5M/year:

(g) Appropriations.—To carry out this section, there is authorized to be appropriated $5,000,000 for each of the fiscal years 2019 through 2021.
$75,000 per student = 66 pilots per year.

In 40-50 yrs they’ll cover a year’s worth of major airline pilot demand.
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Old 29th Oct 2019, 12:58
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[Sun Country isn't a regional but I don't know where else to put news about them]

I see that Sun Country is now advertising a “Paid ATP-CPT certification” for new hires:

Sun Country Benefits ? Become a Sun Country Pilot

This is a bit confusing as their airlineapps.com page lists an ATP as a "minimum" requirement:

"Minimum qualifications
Certification requirements:
• FAA issued Airline Transport Pilot (ATP) Airplane Multiengine Land certification"

https://www.airlineapps.com/jobs/det...=First-Officer

Why are they offering the ATP-CTP if applicants must already have the ATP ?

They also say “Legal right to work in the United States” which doesn't tell a whole lot. So the next question is: any chance of E3s ?

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Old 29th Oct 2019, 13:54
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I love your snooping BG.

On this website https://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/...untry_airlines there is no mention of the ATP requirement.

Possibly some of the lowest (advertised) minimums out there. Goes hand in hand with not cracking $100 per hour for the first 8 years.

Also states that contract is ammendable in Nov 2020.... Likely see a pay bump there I guess.

And yes, an excellent question. Do they take E3s? Well the floodgates are just opening up with Southern and Atlas...... So who will fall next in allowing the Australian scurge to fly in the US?
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Right to work is right to work - the only question is getting your certs. co-validated. You could then work anywhere, without being tied to a specific company.
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Old 29th Oct 2019, 16:41
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Originally Posted by RamSRQ View Post
Right to work is right to work - the only question is getting your certs. co-validated. You could then work anywhere, without being tied to a specific company.
there are some that require citizenship, eg kalitta.
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Old 29th Oct 2019, 22:52
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I love your snooping BG. And yes, an excellent question. Do they take E3s?
PA,

We can get kinda snoopy here at The Olde Pilot Home.

Someone will have to contact Sun Country and ask about the E3 issue.

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Old 31st Oct 2019, 11:06
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Mesa Airlines cadet program. Not sure if this is new or has been around a while...can't remember. Click on the picture for more details:

Mesa Air Group
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Old 7th Nov 2019, 13:21
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Piedmont Cadet Program. A little cash to grease the skids ?:

Piedmont Airlines Cadet Program

News article dated Oct.31:

Piedmont Airlines Launches New Cadet Pilot Program
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Old 7th Nov 2019, 21:47
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AA gettin' em young:

https://generalaviationnews.com/2019...cation-grants/
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Old 22nd Nov 2019, 10:40
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Air Wisconsin has a new pilot labor contract. It'll be interesting to see if the change to pay structure, apparently eliminating sign-on bonuses, has any effect on recruiting:

“The new agreement converts one-time bonus payments previously offered by management into permanent pay rate increases…”


Air Wisconsin Pilots Approve New Contract | Aero-News Network
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 16:02
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Originally Posted by bafanguy View Post
Air Wisconsin has a new pilot labor contract. It'll be interesting to see if the change to pay structure, apparently eliminating sign-on bonuses, has any effect on recruiting:

“The new agreement converts one-time bonus payments previously offered by management into permanent pay rate increases…”
The sign-on bonuses have not been removed and the new TA does not have pay rates reflecting as such.
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Old 6th Dec 2019, 13:06
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Originally Posted by Michael Nowakowski View Post
The sign-on bonuses have not been removed and the new TA does not have pay rates reflecting as such.
Hmm, either the author of that article missed the mark or my reading comprehension skills have finally hit bottom.
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Old 9th Dec 2019, 12:56
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Didn't notice this before but Piedmont advertising for DECs. Not sure when it first appeared on their pilot hiring page:

"20 DIRECT ENTRY CAPTAIN positions now available. Pilots who meet all 121 captain requirements may be eligible to receive an industry and wholly-owned competitive DEC bonus. The additional DEC bonus would be $15,000 on top of the $18,000 new hire pilot bonus.
Apply before Dec. 31 at AirlineApps.com"

Piedmont Airlines Pilot Careers
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