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Old 8th Sep 2015, 10:05
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4 year degree

I am an Airline pilot with 12000h.
Could anyone kindly direct me to an University, that offers a 4 year degree in aviation online? I went to school in Europe, so i do have an associate degree.
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Old 8th Sep 2015, 14:30
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Utah Valley University
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Charter College is currently a 2 year online degree but will get accredited for a 4 year program very soon.

http://flighttraining.aopa.org/magaz...directory2.pdf

Look at the category "Distance Learning"
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 05:10
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I agree with flyboyike. I wish I had gotten a degree in anything but aviation. It really is a useless degree to have. If I had gotten a business degree, for example, I could have went into management somewhere when times were tough in the aviation sector.

Just because you want to be a pilot doesn't mean you need a degree in it.
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4 year degree

hi guys
I am an Airline pilot with almost 9000h , 3000 PIC on A320, I have the FAA license multiengine land/A320, I just got the green card and I'm thinking to move to USA , but I heard that I need a 4 year degree to apply to one of the major , I'm not familiar with the education system of the USA but I had my baccalaureate back home , can someone advise me what to do to get the 4 year degree, thanks
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I had my baccalaureate back home




What exactly is that? How many credit hours?
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 19:42
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Baccalaureate could mean anything, from high school level (IB), college (two or three years), or bachelor's (three or four years).
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Old 23rd Oct 2015, 18:11
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The four year degree referred to in the USA is usually considered a bricks and mortar degree. An online degree is not accepted.

However things they are a'changing. Due to the shortage of pilots some airlines are rethinking the whole degree thing and might accept less than the 4 year one.
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So where did you get the idea an "online degree is not accepted?"

I have one and had a few favorable comments from HR types about it. I think as long as it's from a properly accredited university, it's fine.
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The four year degree referred to in the USA is usually considered a bricks and mortar degree. An online degree is not accepted.
That is one more of the fallacies that keep being repeated in these web boards up to the point that some people actually believe them.....!

I know many pilots with on line degrees that are now in Delta, Fedex, UAL etc...!

The reality is that where you get the degree or what kind of degree, is really not important...., now a days they want to see community service! That is the latest pet peeve from the HR departments
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......now a days they want to see community service! That is the latest pet peeve from the HR departments
You're joking ?
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rather than actual jail time?
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Old 4th Nov 2015, 18:13
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"rather than actual jail time? "

THAT...is funny !!!!
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Old 5th Nov 2015, 15:57
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FYI

FedEx and delta do not accept on line 4 year degree, they want actual class schools

Only flowthroughs got on at delta without this requirement so far
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Old 5th Nov 2015, 16:37
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I know several..., not a couple but several pilots at both Delta and FedEx with on line degrees
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ExDubai,

"...now a days they want to see community service! That is the latest pet peeve from the HR departments..."

The Dominican wasn't kidding. I can't speak about all US legacies but DL allegedly thinks seeing some volunteering (as opposed to "community service"...still laughing about that one) makes a better candidate. I doubt everyone they interview and/or hire has been ladling soup at the Lighthouse Mission for years but word is...it'll help set you apart from the vast, roiling masses. And that's what counts; it's their party so they decide who gets invited.

There are sooooo many qualified candidates in the USA that the HR people are grasping at ways to differentiate among them.

I suggest that people who part their hair on the left and have one green eye and one brown eye would make an even better airline pilot. But, that's just a theory.
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 00:26
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Originally Posted by jrmyl View Post
I agree with flyboyike. I wish I had gotten a degree in anything but aviation. It really is a useless degree to have. If I had gotten a business degree, for example, I could have went into management somewhere when times were tough in the aviation sector.

Just because you want to be a pilot doesn't mean you need a degree in it.
You are exactly correct. One never knows. Perhaps some day, a person will lose their medical or something else precludes flying for a living. An aviation degree isn't totally useless but isn't particularly useful in the non-aviation community.
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Well...., I certainly didn't mean it as a joke..., my point is that now the HR scientists want to see some sort of volunteer work..., exactly what that has to do with selecting a good individual as a pilot I don't have a clue.

Specially since many good people lingering at the regional level are just too tired all the time by having to sacrifice days off picking up trips to make ends meet, it adds insult to injury when you get ready to meet one of these recruiters at a job fair and they are told that "10,000 hours, check airman qualification and a degree is not enough these days" like many friends of mine have been told at the so called "preferential interviews"

The separation of the classes between the regionals and the majors have created an environment where you are punished if you have too much experience, for what I've been hearing from former colleagues is that the high time guys at the regional level are having a very hard time getting the jobs at the big three.
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The Dominican,

"Well...., I certainly didn't mean it as a joke..."

And it certainly isn't. It's the Brave New World of airline employment.
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The separation of the classes between the regionals and the majors have created an environment where you are punished if you have too much experience, for what I've been hearing from former colleagues is that the high time guys at the regional level are having a very hard time getting the jobs at the big three.
A Sr. Captain at a regional may need to take a pay cut plus the loss of seniority when going to a major, with no guarantee of success there.

So depending on age, lifestyle, goals, etc., many if not most high timers aren't really serious about moving on anywhere else, and feel they may be better off being a "lifer" at the regional level. Recruiters know this too and may target younger (not as senior) pilots accordingly.
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