Skywest ERJ Emergency Descent into KBUF
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reports of possible depressurization or other pressurization problem - at least one passenger lost consciousness.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0ND27720150422
SkyWest has said reports of door "open" are incorrect.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0ND27720150422
SkyWest has said reports of door "open" are incorrect.
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SkyWest is now saying there was no cabin depressurization issue at all.
Rather the flight was diverted after a passenger got sick. The pilots thought they had a pressurization problem but it was a false alarm.
Plane diverted to Buffalo after passenger becomes ill
Vertical profile from FlightAware:
ADS-B data shows about 7,000 fpm initial descent.
Rather the flight was diverted after a passenger got sick. The pilots thought they had a pressurization problem but it was a false alarm.
Plane diverted to Buffalo after passenger becomes ill
Vertical profile from FlightAware:
ADS-B data shows about 7,000 fpm initial descent.
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What did these guys do, an emergency descent because a pax fainted? Either we have in front of us two Wallys, or a faint whiff of a coverup.
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I really don't know what a WALLY is. Though I seem to agree with what you are getting at.
Please explain WALLY to this pilot in the USA>
and what is with the climb at 11:17? can someone say over speed?
Please explain WALLY to this pilot in the USA>
and what is with the climb at 11:17? can someone say over speed?
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Flight From O'Hare Diverted After "Multiple" Passengers Fall Ill
Flight From O'Hare Diverted After "Multiple" Passengers Fall Ill | NBC Chicago
A registered emergency room nurse who came to the aid of an ill passenger on board a United Express jet on Wednesday morning said she realized something was "very wrong" when she and others also became light-headed during the flight.
The crew of Flight 5622 from O'Hare International Airport declared an emergency en route to Bradley International Airport in Connecticut and put the plane down at Buffalo Niagara International Airport at about 11:40 a.m after a passenger lost consciousness and the pilot worried the cabin had lost pressure, the airline said....
Marissa Snow, a spokeswoman for the St. George, Utah-based airline said the jet landed safely and that three passengers lost consciousness. An additional 15 adults and two children were evaluated upon landing, but none required treatment outside the airport, airport spokesman C. Douglas Hartmayer said.
"Anyone who said they didn't feel well was treated at the gate," he said.
The crew of Flight 5622 from O'Hare International Airport declared an emergency en route to Bradley International Airport in Connecticut and put the plane down at Buffalo Niagara International Airport at about 11:40 a.m after a passenger lost consciousness and the pilot worried the cabin had lost pressure, the airline said....
Marissa Snow, a spokeswoman for the St. George, Utah-based airline said the jet landed safely and that three passengers lost consciousness. An additional 15 adults and two children were evaluated upon landing, but none required treatment outside the airport, airport spokesman C. Douglas Hartmayer said.
"Anyone who said they didn't feel well was treated at the gate," he said.
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so many questions, so few answers.
did pilots go on oxygen?
did automatic deploying oxygen masks work in cabin?
could this be mass hysteria?
could there have been a carbon monoxide leak? (I realize this is unlikely)
could there have been some sort of personal toiletry leaking and causing fumes...hair spray or something like that?
was the plane recently out of MX?
and, DID THEY HAVE FISH FOR LUNCH?
did pilots go on oxygen?
did automatic deploying oxygen masks work in cabin?
could this be mass hysteria?
could there have been a carbon monoxide leak? (I realize this is unlikely)
could there have been some sort of personal toiletry leaking and causing fumes...hair spray or something like that?
was the plane recently out of MX?
and, DID THEY HAVE FISH FOR LUNCH?
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And don't be surprised when uninformed Wally's make conclusions with little to no information. Still jumping to conclusions at age 70?
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Skywest 5622 emergency landing, 3 unconscious pax
Just came across this. Comments? SkyWest Flight 5622 makes emergency landing in Buffalo - CNN.com
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This is most assuredly a case of mass hysteria. One sick passenger, with some illness resulting in marginal O2 sats, became hypoxic at cabin altitude. FA called a very compassionate nurse to assist, who administered O2 and solved the acute problem.
Second passenger in the vicinity of the sick one developed symptoms, which then spread to fifteen of the most suggestible pax, including the nurse.
The nurse did a great job, warm, caring, kind, obviously, but this is the situation where, unfortunately, one of these incidents is most likely to occur.
Nothing wrong with the pressurization, because they checked it, and because the masks did not deploy.
The moment I saw the nurse interviewed on TV, I was sure.
Second passenger in the vicinity of the sick one developed symptoms, which then spread to fifteen of the most suggestible pax, including the nurse.
The nurse did a great job, warm, caring, kind, obviously, but this is the situation where, unfortunately, one of these incidents is most likely to occur.
Nothing wrong with the pressurization, because they checked it, and because the masks did not deploy.
The moment I saw the nurse interviewed on TV, I was sure.
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ackfoo makes some good points and I would like to add to them as I too have seen the nurses interview.
I also offer my congratulations and respect to the nurse for helping.
I offer this thought, that the nurse's light headedness may have been caused by the following.
She works in an ER at about sea level and does her work in surroundings that do not make her kneel. I imagine she was kneeling to administer to the first two patients. I believe that she was probably dehydrated too. Couple these two together and when she arose from the kneeling position she had momentary Postural Hypotension (head rush from getting up too fast). She was concerned about her two patients and the situation and added things together and diagnosed herself with the same ailment.
I recall a situation on a 737 in the 1990s in which someone fell ill due to LOW oxygen levels. The captain (someone I could not agree with ) indicated that some people should not fly.
I blame the rampant use of recirculated air in the cabin. This situation of recirculated air reduces fuel consumption slightly. On older planes you always got lots of fresh air . Later on you could select recirc to reduce fuel consumption and it was used. Back in the 90's I stopped using RECIRC especially on flights to and from Florida as the folks were older and could use the fresher air.
A plane can be normally pressurized but have reduced oxygen levels. Someone also mentioned that the eyeball air outlets were not working and this can lead to a feeling of insufficient air.
The 8000' limit used in modern planes for cabin altitude was based on studies of healthy 20 year old men during WW2. I STRONGLY SUGGEST that the FAA revisit the question of cabin altitude and ALL normal passengers from young and fit to old and sick...they all buy tickets now a days.
I also offer my congratulations and respect to the nurse for helping.
I offer this thought, that the nurse's light headedness may have been caused by the following.
She works in an ER at about sea level and does her work in surroundings that do not make her kneel. I imagine she was kneeling to administer to the first two patients. I believe that she was probably dehydrated too. Couple these two together and when she arose from the kneeling position she had momentary Postural Hypotension (head rush from getting up too fast). She was concerned about her two patients and the situation and added things together and diagnosed herself with the same ailment.
I recall a situation on a 737 in the 1990s in which someone fell ill due to LOW oxygen levels. The captain (someone I could not agree with ) indicated that some people should not fly.
I blame the rampant use of recirculated air in the cabin. This situation of recirculated air reduces fuel consumption slightly. On older planes you always got lots of fresh air . Later on you could select recirc to reduce fuel consumption and it was used. Back in the 90's I stopped using RECIRC especially on flights to and from Florida as the folks were older and could use the fresher air.
A plane can be normally pressurized but have reduced oxygen levels. Someone also mentioned that the eyeball air outlets were not working and this can lead to a feeling of insufficient air.
The 8000' limit used in modern planes for cabin altitude was based on studies of healthy 20 year old men during WW2. I STRONGLY SUGGEST that the FAA revisit the question of cabin altitude and ALL normal passengers from young and fit to old and sick...they all buy tickets now a days.
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Skywest depressurization?
Accident: Skywest E175 near Buffalo on Apr 22nd 2015, emergency descent
According to reports the crew reported a pressurization problem and did an emergency descent. Three passengers became unconscious and others had difficulty breathing until reaching lower altitude. The masks never dropped. No problem with aircraft was found by maintenance when ground tested.
One passenger in another report said no airflow was coming out of the overhead vents. Now the aircraft is not returned to service but ferried to their maintenance facility.
Why didn't the masks drop at 14,000 ft? What did the pilots say exactly happened? Why all the mystery in reporting this event? How could the air quit flowing into the cabin at altitude if that is what happened?
According to reports the crew reported a pressurization problem and did an emergency descent. Three passengers became unconscious and others had difficulty breathing until reaching lower altitude. The masks never dropped. No problem with aircraft was found by maintenance when ground tested.
One passenger in another report said no airflow was coming out of the overhead vents. Now the aircraft is not returned to service but ferried to their maintenance facility.
Why didn't the masks drop at 14,000 ft? What did the pilots say exactly happened? Why all the mystery in reporting this event? How could the air quit flowing into the cabin at altitude if that is what happened?
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Skywest depressurization?
Did the cabin pressure reach 14,000'? If it did and there were no masks, there's a deeper issue. If it didn't then the masks wouldn't drop. An emergency descent can be initiated swiftly enough to stop the cabin reaching 14,000'.
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Skywest depressurization?
I think you find in any deviation from standard ops, the pilots tend to explain things.
Have you seen any chemtrails as well recently?
Have you seen any chemtrails as well recently?
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At the hearing they will probably ask why did you initiate an emergency descent? Did you have a pressurization problem?
If the answer is no the next question will be what emergency did you encounter that required an emegency descent and what checklist for this emergency did you use? That is the explaining part that might be tricky.
If the answer is no the next question will be what emergency did you encounter that required an emegency descent and what checklist for this emergency did you use? That is the explaining part that might be tricky.
