Transfer German Glider Licence on US PPL
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Transfer German Glider Licence on US PPL
Hey,
i just wanted to ask, if it is possible to transfer my German Glider Licence (SPL, PartFCL, ICAO) into a glider rating on my US PPL. Do i have to take a checkride or a written test?
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i just wanted to ask, if it is possible to transfer my German Glider Licence (SPL, PartFCL, ICAO) into a glider rating on my US PPL. Do i have to take a checkride or a written test?
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Explain SPL and Part FCL. 
If you already have a full FAA ticket you'll have to take a checkride, but no written. I assume you have something like single-engine land or rotorcraft helicopter. Generally your flight experience counts, but you'll need some prep work, both practically and legally.
If your license is based on your German permits, then it may be just a paperwork exercise - but again I'm not sure what the terms above mean.
If you already have a full FAA ticket you'll have to take a checkride, but no written. I assume you have something like single-engine land or rotorcraft helicopter. Generally your flight experience counts, but you'll need some prep work, both practically and legally.
If your license is based on your German permits, then it may be just a paperwork exercise - but again I'm not sure what the terms above mean.
As Rotorhead says, if you already hold a "stand alone" FAA certificate, you need at least 3 hours in gliders, 10 solo flights and 3 flights with a CFI-G within 2 months of your checkride.
If you have a 61.75 certificate based on your German license and you have added a Sail Plane License to your German license you can have the glider rating added to your FAA certificate. If you do it this way and the Germans still require a medical to fly a glider, you'll have to have a medical to use your FAA certificate. You can use your German medical.
If you have a 61.75 certificate based on your German license and you have added a Sail Plane License to your German license you can have the glider rating added to your FAA certificate. If you do it this way and the Germans still require a medical to fly a glider, you'll have to have a medical to use your FAA certificate. You can use your German medical.
He has a glider license (SPL - Sail Plane License) issued in Europe under EASA's Part-FCL (Flight Crew Licensing).
He can get a "based on" FAA Private Pilot Glider Certificate dependent on his German one (including medical requirement). This is a paperwork exercise and requires a flight review with a CFI before he flies.
He has an existing FAA Private Pilot Certificate (Guessing ASEL, what the Europeans would call SEP - Single Engined Piston).
With his exising SPL and FAA pilot certificate, I think all reqirements are met for an add-on glider rating with the exception of three recommendation flights and a checkride. No written required for glider add-on.
This might not be enough "Soaring in America" practical knowledge to pass the checkride, but the minimum requirements are met. Given a dedicated instructor and a weekend it could likely be done. FSDO/etc. not required. Lots of places it could be done.
That's my recommendation as a CFI-G. I PM'd kontrollturm (Control Tower in German) with the above info. No response.
Terry
He can get a "based on" FAA Private Pilot Glider Certificate dependent on his German one (including medical requirement). This is a paperwork exercise and requires a flight review with a CFI before he flies.
He has an existing FAA Private Pilot Certificate (Guessing ASEL, what the Europeans would call SEP - Single Engined Piston).
With his exising SPL and FAA pilot certificate, I think all reqirements are met for an add-on glider rating with the exception of three recommendation flights and a checkride. No written required for glider add-on.
This might not be enough "Soaring in America" practical knowledge to pass the checkride, but the minimum requirements are met. Given a dedicated instructor and a weekend it could likely be done. FSDO/etc. not required. Lots of places it could be done.
That's my recommendation as a CFI-G. I PM'd kontrollturm (Control Tower in German) with the above info. No response.
Terry
Of course he can.
He can get an FAA Private Pilot GliderCertificate rating based on his EASA Sailplane License. LBA-to-FAA validation > FSDO > Flight Review. Done.
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He can get an FAA Private Pilot Glider
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61.75 Private pilot certificate issued on the basis of a foreign pilot license.
(a) General.
(b) Certificate issued.
.... A person who holds a foreign pilot license issued by a contracting
State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation may be issued a
U.S. private pilot certificate based on the foreign pilot license without any
further showing of proficiency, provided the applicant:
(1) Meets the requirements of this section;
(2) Holds a foreign pilot license,...
(3) Does not hold a U.S. pilot certificate other than a U.S. student pilot
certificate;
It doesn't say "does not hold a FAA without this rating." And you can go the other way, have the 61.75 and then later get a regular FAA cert and still keep the 61.75.
(a) General.
(b) Certificate issued.
.... A person who holds a foreign pilot license issued by a contracting
State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation may be issued a
U.S. private pilot certificate based on the foreign pilot license without any
further showing of proficiency, provided the applicant:
(1) Meets the requirements of this section;
(2) Holds a foreign pilot license,...
(3) Does not hold a U.S. pilot certificate other than a U.S. student pilot
certificate;
It doesn't say "does not hold a FAA without this rating." And you can go the other way, have the 61.75 and then later get a regular FAA cert and still keep the 61.75.
Markerinbound - at a minimum - caught a vocabulary mistake on my part.
In Europe a glider license and a power license are two independent documents, where here we would simply have a Private Pilot Certificate with ASEL and glider ratings.
I should not have said certificate. Kontrollturm needs to add a glider rating to his certificate.
I just spoke to the local FSDO. The answer I got was that an "on the basis of" glider rating could be added to his existing certificate, but it would likely be easier, faster, maybe even cheaper to simply fly with a DPE/Inspector and have a genuine FAA rating.
Kind of sad we're doing all this talking and the OP isn't her to see/follow.
In Europe a glider license and a power license are two independent documents, where here we would simply have a Private Pilot Certificate with ASEL and glider ratings.
I should not have said certificate. Kontrollturm needs to add a glider rating to his certificate.
I just spoke to the local FSDO. The answer I got was that an "on the basis of" glider rating could be added to his existing certificate, but it would likely be easier, faster, maybe even cheaper to simply fly with a DPE/Inspector and have a genuine FAA rating.
Kind of sad we're doing all this talking and the OP isn't her to see/follow.
