Aussie looking to move to USA
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Aussie looking to move to USA
And wondering what the employment prospects are like for freshly minted pilots with their 200 hours/CPL at the moment. I'm not TOO fussed where i'm flying from. Just gotta make a few decisions about my future soon and obviously the more information I can get the better.
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200 hours and looking for another place? Seriously?
first of all, in order to be able to fly and receive pay in the US you will need to have a residence card or work permit of some sort.
In order to work for any passenger airline you will need ATP license.
first of all, in order to be able to fly and receive pay in the US you will need to have a residence card or work permit of some sort.
In order to work for any passenger airline you will need ATP license.
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this theme comes up on a regular basis. Have you researched previous posts? if you have you will see that to work in the USA you will need a permanent residence card also known as a green card. There are other types of work visas for specialized professions but pilot is not one of them.
So firstly do you have a green card? If not obtaining one is virtually impossible without either winning in the green card lottery or being married to a US citizen. I have one by virtue of marriage and even then it took almost 3 years!
Secondly with just 200 hours of flight time your chances of any meaningful employment are virtually nil. There are plenty of US pilots with considerable more time looking for flying jobs.
Sorry to burst your bubble but that is the reality of the situation.
So firstly do you have a green card? If not obtaining one is virtually impossible without either winning in the green card lottery or being married to a US citizen. I have one by virtue of marriage and even then it took almost 3 years!
Secondly with just 200 hours of flight time your chances of any meaningful employment are virtually nil. There are plenty of US pilots with considerable more time looking for flying jobs.
Sorry to burst your bubble but that is the reality of the situation.
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I recently got my cpl here in the US and I am a citizen. I began looking for work after that and quickly found out having a fresh cpl isn't much of a qualification at all. Really your only prospects are as a sky dive pilot, but even they want experience. Also, I think there is one alternative option for getting a work permit, but if I am wrong someone correct me. If you get a student visa and attend a university, they allow you to work at one job. My instructor was doing it that way, he was an Indian citizen.
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How about 1,000 hours, but not a lot of twin or IFR time?
My partner is eligible for an E-3 visa, and according to what I have seen so far, it also allows a spouse the right to live and work in the USA... Anyone doing that / done that?
My partner is eligible for an E-3 visa, and according to what I have seen so far, it also allows a spouse the right to live and work in the USA... Anyone doing that / done that?
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I suspect to secure employment post 911 with a part 121 carrier that you'll need full citizenship as demonstrated by actually holding a US passport. Not specifically the letter of the law but it's the way things currently are. Expect no feedback from the dregs of HR when you fail to be hired.
There have recently been a few sensible and very necessary amendments to the required flight experience for securing employment as an airline pilot. This puts the RHS in anything of worth with logbook hours totaling 200 even further out of reach.
Interested in Europe? Well then, direct your post to Beelzebub and he'll spin on his axis and mendaciously explain how 200hrs makes you a king of the skies - zero to hero and all that sort of thing. You'll be a mentored, pampered and monitored product from a pilot factory who after beating the herd will graduate with a cheesy grin and no worries. Do please however note that you'll have to pay a considerable sum for admittance to the club - and the passport thing will still be a problem. Plus the product is more than a little suspect.
Sorry eightyeight - no easy answers. You (like most of us once did) need to build time. The hard truth is that there's little possibility of you finding employment in the US of A so best you cross the possibility from your list.
I sincerely wish you all the best with your endeavors.
There have recently been a few sensible and very necessary amendments to the required flight experience for securing employment as an airline pilot. This puts the RHS in anything of worth with logbook hours totaling 200 even further out of reach.
Interested in Europe? Well then, direct your post to Beelzebub and he'll spin on his axis and mendaciously explain how 200hrs makes you a king of the skies - zero to hero and all that sort of thing. You'll be a mentored, pampered and monitored product from a pilot factory who after beating the herd will graduate with a cheesy grin and no worries. Do please however note that you'll have to pay a considerable sum for admittance to the club - and the passport thing will still be a problem. Plus the product is more than a little suspect.
Sorry eightyeight - no easy answers. You (like most of us once did) need to build time. The hard truth is that there's little possibility of you finding employment in the US of A so best you cross the possibility from your list.
I sincerely wish you all the best with your endeavors.
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Not true. My carrier has employed at least 2 non-us citizens, one of whom was hired after 9/11. I know of other non-us citizens hires by US part 121 carriers on the post 9/11 era.
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Not true. My carrier has employed at least 2 non-us citizens, one of whom was hired after 9/11. I know of other non-us citizens hires by US part 121 carriers on the post 9/11 era.
I'll bet it's not exactly a flood through an open conduit and that the two ( plus a possible bit) out of hundreds if not thousands must have held a green card otherwise their employment would be illegal.
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G'day all,
I am also interested in this topic. I have an aus (ICAO) ATPL with 2200 TT and 850 multi, all piston unfortunately. Basically no connections with the US but would like to know if any regionals would 'sponsor' foreign pilots if they are struggling for crew with these relatively new FAA rules regarding required hours for the airlines.
I am only going off some articles I've been reading about US regionals so forgive me if I'm on the wrong page regarding the situation over there.
I am also interested in this topic. I have an aus (ICAO) ATPL with 2200 TT and 850 multi, all piston unfortunately. Basically no connections with the US but would like to know if any regionals would 'sponsor' foreign pilots if they are struggling for crew with these relatively new FAA rules regarding required hours for the airlines.
I am only going off some articles I've been reading about US regionals so forgive me if I'm on the wrong page regarding the situation over there.
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Jetdream, things are tight enough that you have an outside chance with some regionals (given your experience), but you'll a need US (FAA) license. Getting the ATP multi is going to get really difficult (expensive) beginning 8/1/14. You can beat the additional requirements (for two years) by taking the ATP written before 8/1. I think the nearest testing center is Guam (!). In any case, as noted above, it's a long shot. At the very least get your Comm/Inst/Multi and start applying via web sites. You never know ...
If you do visit Guam, give the War Dog cemetery a visit. It's quite a story.
If you do visit Guam, give the War Dog cemetery a visit. It's quite a story.
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Airlines cannot currently sponsor work visas. H1B visas are currently sponsored for critical jobs that require college degrees, and although it may be a requirements for some airlines to have a degree, a degree isn't a prerequisite to be an airline pilot, and no airline can sponsor a work visa at this time.
@underfire ... I don't understand your comment. Explain?
@underfire ... I don't understand your comment. Explain?
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Try the CFI route
Become a CFI. You will need and IR and commercial license.
You can always try the Green Card lottery, (no joke) there is such a thing.
There may be a way for you to come here, train for your IR and CFI get to stay here for 1 or 2 years and teach and get paid as a CFI.
You can always try the Green Card lottery, (no joke) there is such a thing.
There may be a way for you to come here, train for your IR and CFI get to stay here for 1 or 2 years and teach and get paid as a CFI.