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Old 13th Oct 2007, 02:52
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I was asking in another thread but I think it was in the wrong spot. This seems to be a much better choice. I'm currently at a regional flying the erj-145. I have roughly 2300hrs TT and 800hrs multi. I'm trying to do all I can to end up at an ACMI carrier like Southern Air, Kalitta, etc. Kalitta is my most desirable choice. Anyone here work there and willing to send a pm?
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All depent in what do you want to do with your life and how old are you. ACMI except for Astar, ABX and Atlas to an extend are very hard places to work. You will be out a month at a time with minimum time at home for little or no pay. You will only fly garantee and stay at places like Hong Kong for a week where a cup of coffee cost $10. If I was you, I would remain where I am get to be a captain in an Rj with glass and after 1000 hrs pic. I would look for a job oversea. The opportunities are there for glass time what you want to do is trade the future for the past.

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Check out Capital Cargo... 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, home based. Most flying is within the US, with a few lines to Mexico and a bit of South American flying out of Miami. 727-200F's with the first 757 arriving in early 2008 and a gradual fleet conversion to 75's over the next few years.
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You're not on the most relevant site for North American hiring information. Check your PM in-box.
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fkair . . .

Sorry, coffee doesn't cost $10/cup at HKG; in fact everything costs less than in USA. Less taxes too. Only housing is much more expensive.
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Well I tried Kalitta and apparently they want someone with more heavy and international flying experience, flying the regional jets obviously gets me neither of those. Anyone have any other knowledge of places hiring so that I can get out of this RJ and into something heavier? I'm starting to get baffled as to how I'm suppose to get out of a 50k lb jet.
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Sorry to run this by you, but at 2,300 hours with 800 multi your times are low even for the 50,000 pound jet. Patience dude and enjoy flying the RJ it is a good experience of glass cockpit (like someone said before) get yourself some 5,000 hours with a couple of thousand hours PIC and then you are marketable for something else because right now you are not.
Sorry if it sting a bit Bro! It is for your own growth
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Patience doesn't pay the bills. It's those that go after what they want that succeed.
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Well I tried Kalitta and apparently they want someone with more heavy and international flying experience, flying the regional jets obviously gets me neither of those.
I think you posted somewhere else and didn't hear what you wanted to hear.

Kalitta doesn't necessarily need international experience, nor heavy experience...just more experience. 800 hours of multi engine experience, but you want to jump into a B747.

I think what we're seeing is the me-now generation, as in I want it, give it to me now. I'm not going to glaze your eyes with a recitation of the good old days and give you the pay-your-dues lecture, but you surely need to realize that to apply for any job you need to meet some basic qualifications. Your total time doesn't meet the posted minimums, to say nothing of your multi engine experience.

Other posters have give you good advice. You need to get some experience where you are. Get some solid PIC experience, increase your total time by about 2,000 more hours, and push on. The industry will still be there for you then, too.

Bear in mind that a lot of folks have already put in 15 or 20 years before they get to that 747.
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This isn't about any specific aircraft. This is about keeping my career moving forward. There are companies hiring at this level. There have been some hiring with less. I'm just wanting a list that's all. Let me know when my dues are in. I went to college, did the CFI thing for the air force, flew privately, now fly for a regional. I don't like my current job and don't want to stay at it. I wasn't asking for career council, though it is always welcome, I'm just looking for other career opportunities.
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Anybody know current conditions and/or interview gouge for Mountain Air Cargo? I got the pay, etc. from their site, which also lists routes, but apparently things are changing somewhat there. I'd like to hear from some MAC pilots about how they like it (or don't!).
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Let me know when my dues are in.
A few more thousand hours and some real world experience, and you'l be getting there. Your college and your flight instructing doesn't really cut it.

Go get a single pilot freight job in the weather and in the system, get beat up, find out the difference between reading books and handling real emergencies, learn about the realities of aviation and enhancing your airmanship rather than curtain climbing to the next bigger job or airplane, and you'll be on the right track.

25 years old and a few hundred hours of multi...and you want the world to lay down for you.

Get upgraded where you are, get some solid experience as PIC, then look around.
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If you have a job with a regional, you're on your way, but not to making any big bucks anytime soon. US regionals' company cultures and career opportunities vary widely.
The majors and LCC are hiring (for now), but competition is keen. The whole
airline pilot career has been drastically changed by economics and politics.
The national carrier model, where pilots were supported by the state, is largely gone in Europe. Deregulation in the US has provided more jobs, but longer hours and lower pay.
If you haven't seen the light reading all the stuff on PPRUNE, read it again, then decide if you still want what passes for an airline "career" in the real world of today.
Good luck!
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I'm trying to do all I can to end up at an ACMI carrier like Southern Air, Kalitta, etc. Kalitta is my most desirable choice. Anyone here work there and willing to send a pm?
If you are interested in a mix of scheduled and ACMI flying on wide-body types, and would be willing to live overseas, send a PM.
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intrest in international widebodies

Hey 411A,

I am also intrested in flying widebodies internationally. I have extensive international experience. I have 6700total with 3000PIC and I am willing to relocate anywhere worldwide. If you know of anything, I would appreciate some info.

Thanks in advance,

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Originally Posted by ToiletDucky
This isn't about any specific aircraft. This is about keeping my career moving forward. There are companies hiring at this level. There have been some hiring with less. I'm just wanting a list that's all. Let me know when my dues are in. I went to college, did the CFI thing for the air force, flew privately, now fly for a regional. I don't like my current job and don't want to stay at it. I wasn't asking for career council, though it is always welcome, I'm just looking for other career opportunities.
I would suggest looking at overseas opportunities with your quals. That being said, some jet PIC time probably wouldn't hurt.

While I don't necessarily agree with the tone of some of the posters here (grow some bigger balls, son, then maybe we'll consider you a real pilot), I think the basic point that some more jet time would help a lot is not all that off base.
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I agree 100% but if something presents itself then awesome.
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Keep flying the RJ and put your stuff in at Cathay. Also, you may want to consider Emirates as well.
I fly ACMI, and I can tell you it really sucks (more than you can imagine)...all of us are leaving for LCC's or foriegn airlines (Cathay, Emirates, contract jobs in India and Japan etc).
RJ is good quality time and get's you ready for the heavies (jet, glass, FMS are all the same concepts).
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Not US but....

Cargolux F/O:

- Total of 2500 hours flight time of which 1000 hours on jet aircraft.
- Or total of 3000 hours flight time of which 2000 hours on high performance turboprop or jet.
- Full JAR ATPL license with MCC qualification.
- Valid medical certificate
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A CFI doesn't cut it? I learned more being a CFI than I ever have at this airline. The Merlin I flew before this RJ was much more technical and required much more skill than this jet. I don't see why people say "Spend more time in the RJ". Perhaps they never had to fly them. The RJ is so easy I feel like I'm losing my skills after flying it rather than increasing them. All you do is set there and monitor systems. My stick and rudder skills were much better when doing 5flights a day as a CFI or why flying the Merlin through the mountains or shooting an approach into Honduras. This RJ is V1... VR.. Rotate, Positive rate, gear up, Acceleration alt. V2+15, Climb thrust auto pilot on. Then you just twist a knob until you get there. It's so easy a monkey could do it. The T-prop with a 6 pack of steam guages flying heavy IFR was the experience builder. These RJs do nothing but make lazy pilots. As far as emergencies. Well I haven't had to deal with many so you've got me there. Where do you think someone's going to get better experience? Sitting in an RJ doing regional flying or sitting in a DC9/727/etc and flying international? If a place wants heavy or international time then 10000hrs in the RJ isn't going to get me any closer. A guy in my class just went to Southern Air. In 5-10yrs which of us do you think will be more marketable? The one in the RJ or the one flying internationally? There's no reason why I shouldn't be looking to further my career. One again thanks for the replies but wasn't asking for career council just wanting to know places that are hiring. I do have 1 interview lined up so we'll see what happens.
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