Who's gonne fly the Norwegian Long Haul
 

Heard some rumours that the Norwegian Pilots are bypassed as far as the new 787 operation?
Anyone?

Try reading the existing NAS threads, on here & terms & endearments.

I think it is the first time I have heard that a civilized company are not using their own pilots:D
What is up with this deal?

Who told you they are civilized?

The broker RISWORTH is preparing a presentation on 9th in Singapore.

So the 787 is grounded!That gives me two questions to wonder about:Are they now gonne fly the 767 or A-330 until the nightmareliner is back in the sky?
And will the origional Pilots from Norwegian still accept to be left out of the long haul production?Anyone with "inside" info??

AFAIK trying to force the company to employ existing NAS permanent crew in NAS Long-Haul on T's&C's any different from other contractors, is not on the NPF (Union)'s radar. It appears that they have given up on that battle even before it started, which, as it is on a different AOC (containing - for the moment :hmm: 1 738) is probably prudent. There are other more pressing fish to fry, the decimation of the pensions, and how the company will propose to utilise the growing proportion of Contractors from Springtime onwards being the main two.

Existing NAS pilots are free to take a "leave of absence" for up to two years to "live the dream", & come back into "Core Norwegian" with no loss of seniority after this time, so far. . . very quiet.

The Norwegian CAA have just this week informed NAS that they will not accept the employment of Thai CC for the operation.

Inbetween this, & the aircrafts ongoing woes, I doubt they are as optimistic in the short term as they would wish the world to believe.

With the 787 grounded I guess this is not an issue anymore.
Understand they will wet- lease an Airbus-330 until further?
Maybe SAS can fly for them......
Anyone?

SAS don't have any surplus 330 or 340, they are adding one more 340 to the fleet in March/April to cope with their own network for the summer of 2013.

reiseselskap
 

og plutselig var Norwegian Longhaul et reiseselskap i stedet for et flyselskap?

Nei?

Har du AOC så er du flyselskap. Du kan godt lease inn kapasitet, wet eller dry, uten å miste den statusen.

Mener du likeledes at SAS er et reiseselskap når de selger strekninger som opereres av Blue1, f.eks.?

Korrekt, men..
 

Teori og praksis kan være to forskjellige ting? Skal de benytte egen AOC ifm. evt. leasede flyginger?
Om ikke, hva er da den praktiske forskjellen mellom konseptet til Flynonstop og Norwegian Longhaul frem til de evt. kommer i gang med egne fly?

Norwegian Long Haul har jo en AOC med tilhørede organisasjon, rettigheter og plikter. Det er den vesentlige forskjellen.

ok
 

Men blir det bare en formalitet? eller vil AOCen og organisasjonen ha noen form for aktivitet, rettigheter eller plikter, som kunder eller andre kan/vil nyte godt av så lenge de kun leier inn fly fra flyselskap med annen AOC til å utføre 100% av flygingene?

Hva er historien med Jet tid wet lease til CPH for sommeren med norsk? Ryktet om mer 737-300 å delta NAS flåte

Og da er lavprisselskapet Norwegian i full gang med å utdanne thai'ene i kabinen. DY's instruktører har startet opplæringen og kursingen i BKK nå - så alt tyder på at Kjos har en plan B, etter at han fikk nei av regjeringen til å la disse thai'ene (ikke-EØS-borgere) fly på norsk AOC inn / ut av Norge.

Hvor har du dette fra?

What destinations do Norwegian Long Haul plan to fly?

If most flights will depart OSL and/or ARN, I just don't understand the thing with BKK-base. If the network will be out of BKK I understand it better, but then Kjos need to get an AOC from the Thai CAA.

I am very confused. Can someone tell me how it's really going to be. Does anyone know? Are all employees (to be) getting an apartment in Bangkok, and have sent in an application for a resident's permit in Thailand?

Rishworth doesn't say much, just a lot of :mad:.

:ugh:

Boeing Operator:

It was planned have the 787 registered in a separate company with a Norwegian AOC. They then got the cold hand from the Norwegian authorities when they wanted to use Thai cabin crew on that AOC. On top of that the 787 are now delayed.

I think very few people know what will actually happen. Norwegian have already sold a lot of tickets which is only making things worse. Maybe that's why they are so quiet. There are rumors of them using 767's which will probably disappoint a lot of customers. But who will fly them?

Boeing operator

There is no such thing a a residents permit (other than a Permanent Resident and the rules for that are unbelievably complex), just a work permit and the relevant visa, both renewed annually. It is impossible to get the work permit from outside of the country and without a job within the country.

As told before, cabin supervicer's and instructor's from Norwegian are, as we speak, in Thai Training Center in BKK, and they are not there for holiday.
Seems like the A340 will start from scretch with thai cabin staff, on thai-contract.

A sad story - the norwegians there are digging for their own unemployment - on long term.

Tally-Ho

Q1 2014
 

The four 787 that NLH will get in 2014, will all come in Q1. In addition, there will be three aircraft this year (to which they have recruited for two already).

I just wonder when they will recruit for the five aircraft coming from November 2013 until March 2014? They only have a few dates for interviews planned in July and August as it seems now.

Does someone have inside information?

:confused:

Hello all.

Sorry to hijack this thread, but has anybody any info re the calibre of applicants for this new Dreamliner operation.

I recently applied via Rishworth. I have maybe 8500 hrs now of which 4500 hrs are on the B737. I am also NG qualified but have no wide bodied or long haul experience!

So far I have not heard a thing. It seems my present experience meets only the basic requirements for the job??

Does anybody here have any inside info?

From what I have read above they appear to have already recruited the majority of flight deck??:confused:

I have also been told that they have had no problem recruiting from Emirates 777 drivers. :uhoh:

Many thanks.

Any idea/guesses on what the eventual 787 fleet will number? I realise they will own and lease 787s - could this be a 20-30 aircraft fleet eventually?

"I have also been told that they have had no problem recruiting from Emirates 777 drivers."

Yeah right.

The Emirates 777 news came from a reliable source in Norwegian (pilot)
Quite a few people in Emirates are from OZ and NZ. The pull of the desert is wearing off for many. Quite a few happier to be closer to home etc.

They are not exactly beating a path to my door and I'm not exactly short on experience either. They must be getting people from somewhere as they have quite a few of these Dreamliners arriving.

Just thought I'd ask the question.:confused:

Cheers.

From the rishworth website:

Minimum Requirements》》
JAA/EASA License
EU passport

The condition are appalling and below truck driver standard since Norwegian requires all agencies to inform each pilot's country tax authority of their income. They had such an overwhelming number of applicants ( few retired KLM, Loco FO and Cpts) that Virgin Atlantic pilot will fly the first two aircraft and " mentor" the B737 Loco guys they were able to source. There is a ex EK TRE in management ,based in Norway, not in BKK , with a "special" deal and that is it. And lot of ladyboys on board...enjoy.

After filling in my application I got a email from Rishworth that I didn't meet the minimum requirements.
2500 hrs Boeing C17 PIC, JAA license and EU passport.

The reason was that I didn't have a TR on one of the mentioned types like 737, 747 etc.
And they had enough applicants to not make exceptions

Yeah.. they have plenty of "qualified" applicants as CRC (tow year PIC B737 Loco Captains) and 500 B737 Loco FO with no what so ever experience on long haul. Thus the deal with Virgin Atlantic to have their TRI/E train on the plane before VA gets it.The type rating on B737/757,,, is just required to take the short TR course.. Don't forget that if you are not B777 rated you have to sign a bond for 30/45000 USD..

Does anyone really know if they have enough qualified pilots to fly their 3 a/c coming this year, and 4 a/c coming during the first three months of next year (total 7 a/c within 9 months from today)?

Should be a fast upgrade for them joining now?!

Can anyone explain how the Virgin Atlantic pilot joint venture will work with Norwegian longhaul? Will VA pilots be instructing Norwegian 787 pilots or providing longhaul guidance? So, when VA gets its first 787s in 2014, its pilots will train on Norwegian 787s first?

I have read a few news clipping but it is still a bit confusing... Appreciate any clarification.

Cheers

OK what I don't understand if they are so hard pressed for drivers why are they playing hard to get. I applied with 8500tt/ 6000+heavy/3000+ heavy PIC all on boeings, EU passport 2 scandinavian languages and EASA license. The reply I got was: not interested as you do not meet min. requirements. Go figure...

So my questions is who is getting this job. A quick take on google reveals some ex. Korean and EVA drivers that started of at MyFly and AirFinland according to their LinkedIn profiles.

I'm wondering if the girl at Rishworse knows what she is doing.

Lack of connections, but do you really want this job?

Scabs are....